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you're in the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio now here's

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gene Steinberg we're going to look at

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mind wars later on this episode the

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power cast we're gonna find out who's

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been watching you from the shadows and

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that's a new book from Marie Jones and

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Larry Flaxman she'll be joining us a

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little bit later but first tell us

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whether or not she's gonna go to Comic

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Con this weekend so we're competing you

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see with that event where tens of

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thousands of people will show up in San

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Diego to learn about their favorite

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comic book characters learn about the TV

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shows learn about the movies but Chris

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you don't care about that stuff

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no I've never been a big comic book fan

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you know to each their own I think it's

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just an excuse for a lot of people to

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get together and find over their

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favorite stars and dressed up in

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outlandish costumes all right I

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understand that

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of course right now a lot of the comic

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book action is in the movies and on TV

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of course some of the best grossing

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movies are comic book movies on TV

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they've got the flash they've got the

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Green Arrow called the arrow and they

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got Supergirl coming this fall but you

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don't care about that stuff no I I don't

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watch that stuff how long teaches on

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yeah exactly

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if that's what they're into then more

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power to them I prefer to live in play

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you know I like sci-fi I do I'm not that

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crazy about slasher horror but you know

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I've just never really been that big of

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a comic book fan I I liked Toric's ton

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of stone that was one that I did read

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but that was about Indians and dinosaurs

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so I guess you know I'm just I'm weird

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I'm different

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speaking of Indians making some headway

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on their little slides that shall not be

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mentioned

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by the way we're going to expand that

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the entire case will be the case that

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shall not be named okay alright anyway

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there is some headway being made on that

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front so I'm hoping to have some word

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here in the next day or two so that it

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make you eligible for why is it ten

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thousand dollars or fifteen thousand for

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Jaime mousse on well I'm sure I'll have

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to split it with who was the guy that

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did the FOI a request something Shepard

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I think I'll probably end up having to

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split it with him but but we'll say you

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know I it's if I do get any sort of

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renumeration for this from Jaime which

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is you know tenuous at best that'll all

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be plowed right into the camera

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San Luis Valley camera project I think

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there'll be an excuse there I think I'll

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find a way to say no this is not it it's

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a trick I just want to get a good a

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selfie with it you see this is it we've

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got comic books you don't care about but

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you're interested in the selfies well I

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don't do selfies except for with aliens

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I have never done a selfie I probably

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will never do a selfie okay I mean

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you've got pretty good smartphone now

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makes really good selfies if you ever

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wanted to try it out you and the alien

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yeah I think that would be fun don't you

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think you and a selfie hmm I would like

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that well as you know last week they had

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the annual festival for the case that

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shall not be named and I had lunch with

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Alejandro Rojas this past Tuesday talked

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about a little bit but doesn't look as

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if anything especially new was

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considered there and although Kerry and

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Schmidt were there

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he didn't release during the limited

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times he heard their presentations

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didn't hear anything mentioned about the

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topic that shall not be named so maybe

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they're trying to walk away from it

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those who did attend though can correct

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us because we're talking about one

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person who attended so many sessions and

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that was it

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and maybe there was something else or

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maybe I should just forget about it okay

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I forgot about it but just think here

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Comic Con will get what thirty fifty

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thousand people to show up in San Diego

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no UFO convention even the most popular

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UFO convention is going to get more than

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maybe a thousand or two people but your

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comic books Wow

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maybe we should have a UFO section at

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Comic Con mm good luck with that you see

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you have to look at where things are you

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see when I was a kid they called comic

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books joke books even if they didn't

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have jokes I collected some pretty good

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ones at the time I had some early issues

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of spider-man even of Archie comics from

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the 1940s and if I had any sense about

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what they'd be worth and I had them in

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good condition too I would have kept

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them or sold them and would have made

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tens and tens of thousands of dollars

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but I didn't know oh well that's what

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you get for not not saving them that's

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right you see we suffered from this and

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it's the biggest business now aid lists

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actress want to be a comic book heroes

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no well again I went off the the movie

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Thor last year and it was like you know

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lame so to you Thor was a thud yeah I

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mean I don't like Thor

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I think Captain America was well done

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but Thor I just didn't like that much I

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thought it's something that really

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requires a specialized taste a lot of

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it's happening in this other world

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asgaard whereas at least in the other

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movies I'll destroy New York City do

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something practical I saw the original

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Iron Man I thought that was okay I mean

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it was you know I saw it on video but

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you know it was fun I think Robert

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Downey jr. did a good job even though he

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was slightly missed cast I thought he

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rose to the occasion well he owns the

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role now I mean there's a point here

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where he's now 50 years old and he's

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going to have to give that up at that

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point who do they pick to replace him

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how can they replace him but the real

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interesting movie I think was Man of

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Steel the Superman reboot because at the

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end of the movie General Zod and

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Superman destroy half of Metropolis and

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people have had to die so how could

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Superman be a hero if he causes all that

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destruction I think we're losing

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listeners left and right you think so I

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think we'll get more and remember now 10

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or 20 times as many people go to comic

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book conventions as UFO conventions I

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know well we're not gonna be talking

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UFOs today maybe maybe well briefly the

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subject will come up but I guess this is

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one of our rare episodes that we venture

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off the reservation so to speak and

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start tackling other cogent and

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important subjects I think the only

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problem I have with this book is not

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that the book isn't well written because

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Murray Jones and Larry Flaxman do a

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great job putting this together but the

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back cover is so difficult to read

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you've got dark red shading here banner

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dark red with thin white type barely

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read it then you've got something in

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what kind of a turquoise blue where it's

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headed who has been messing with our

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minds and I would subtitle that who's

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been messing with our eyes because I

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can't read it I'm looking at this thing

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I cannot read this no I'm having no

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problems of course I've got very good

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eyesight close up I don't need glasses

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to read so I had the reading glasses on

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looks fine to me I can read it all well

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I can get through the white type on the

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dark red well you can't judge a book by

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its back cover I certainly hope so

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that's true by the way it happens to be

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a good book it's not a long read it's

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maybe 238 pages with a

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back cover matter and the index and I

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read it in a single sitting

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sure I mean it's fairly large type it is

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something to three hours you get through

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this book it's really well done

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yeah and nowadays of course we have to

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think more about mind control just as

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the other week on an episode of after

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the para cast you and I were talking

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about subliminal advertising which is

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technically illegal but of course we

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assume it happens we assume that in a

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motion picture theater when you lust for

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popcorns because they're sending that

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quiet message right now I'm getting a

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quiet message to that message says we

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have to break very quiet message with

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Gina and Chris Marie Jones coming up

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you're in America

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so here's what happened I was placing an

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order online the site went down it took

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hours before it returned but I'd already

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placed the order with another company if

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your site goes down you could lose

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business and if you have a business or

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personal site you'll want to know it's

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easy to run and it will stay online at

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iWeb your site is hosted on one of the

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most reliable networks in the world talk

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to a sales rep at iWeb comm use the

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promo code tech night-owl for a special

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discount first game attack of the rock

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codes and it was a critically acclaimed

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success and now there is the coming of

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the protectors a former military

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intelligence man is contacted by a space

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woman in a dream a dream that turns out

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to be a nightmare because evil forces on

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our distant planet are planning to

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conquer the earth

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this is gripping science fiction of the

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classic kind attack of the rock codes

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and the coming of the protectors find

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out more at Rocko it's calm that's rock

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oh it's our Ock oids

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dot-com it's very easy to be a criminal

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all you need to burglarize a home is one

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simple household tool a pair of scissors

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if your home security system can be

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compromised by a criminal using scissors

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then you are making it easy for them

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almost every home security system even

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those sold by big name companies has a

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weakness the phone line you shell out

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1,500 bucks yet locked into a long-term

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contract and think you're safe but a

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burglar can destroy your alarm in

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seconds with one snip and when a burglar

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cuts your phone line you're defenseless

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simply safe home security is the smarter

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safe uses a wireless connection to call

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the cops

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scissors can't cut it and that means

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your home stays safe 24/7 professional

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monitoring is under $15 a month with no

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contract simply safe home security keeps

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you safer than the other guy

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for half the cost protect your home with

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the alarm you can trust simply safe go

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to simply safe defense calm now for an

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exclusive 10% offer that's simply safe

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defense calm quantitative easing

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unemployment at depression levels Europe

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financial system falling apart China

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getting out of US Treasuries at the end

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of 2008 the time of tarp the national

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debt was at eleven trillion gold trading

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subtitled who's been watching you from

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the shadows you know you have to

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before we get to that Marie welcome back

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to the power cast we're always glad to

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have you on

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now you're planning this weekend maybe

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to go to comic-con for my son I've been

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going for years and it's a pain in the

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butt let me tell you but if you don't go

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you really regret it I mean it really is

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an adoring spectacle and I go for my for

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my writing I'm moving into a lot of

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fiction I'm actually pitching on TV

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series now with my manager and a TV

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agent

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I started out writing fiction believe it

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or not so I'm glad I told them I'm going

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for recon and I can write everything off

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so it's really fun for me because as a

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writer and as a fan I'm a total geek I'm

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in oh the whole time I'm there my jaws

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on the floor and I feel like a six year

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old kid just looking at all the cool

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stuff and the comic books the graphic

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novels film TV not you know you name it

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videogames are just such a geek I think

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Chris is gonna be out of this discussion

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because he's not coming back fan but you

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and I are comic book geeks so tell me

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now let's just emphasize quickly and

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we'll get to the mind Wars in a moment

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folks if you know into comic

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books and things last year was Marvel

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this year DC is making a big push Batman

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V Superman where they go off against

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each other

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Supergirl TV show and I saw an

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unofficial copy of the pilot of

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Supergirl and I think this girl who

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plays Supergirl just great yeah when I

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was 15 was an orange Volvo sedan my

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license plate red Supergirl from what I

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hear there are a number of more

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mid-level comic book companies that are

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just really putting out all the stops to

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IDW and Dark Horse and what's really

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funny is for several years comic-con

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sort of became more about film and TV

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but the last few years there's been a

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real increase in popularity of actual

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comic books and graphic novels and

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Illustrated novels and it's so cool now

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to see a lot more bodies in that part of

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the big exhibition hall where they used

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to be you know it was like crickets you

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only have the diehard collectors there

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and a lot of times now you go look at

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the comic books and you're getting a

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taste of what may end up becoming the

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next TV series or the next movie

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franchise because a lot of it starts out

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you know with other properties comic

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books and graphic novels being very

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popular so it's just a whole lot of fun

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remember the concept of men and black

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that went to a graphic comic book and

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then became three films you know a big

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market for this that's really fun to go

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and see what's hot now but also kind of

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get a little glimpse of what's gonna be

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hot the years to come

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well you and I gonna talk off the air

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about this maybe I'll get you on my tech

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show next week and we'll talk about

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Comic Con and have some fun right you

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see it's not for kids anymore folks you

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know when I was a kid these were joke

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books and when they made movies of comic

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book heroes they were being movies and

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they had washed-up actress who went to

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TV like remember George Reeves who

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played Superman in the 50s he was a

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washed-up actor who had no Hollywood

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career except for low-end movies maybe

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came the biggest highest pay performer

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on TV I'm Superman so just think about

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that now

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universal and it speaks to the part of

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us that wants to be a superhero I don't

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see it dying out popularity although I

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think some of the different franchises

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may sort of run the course soon but you

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always have new and upcoming stuff and

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it's really exciting to kind of go and

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say oh wow that looks really good and

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then a year or two later you see it just

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exploding in the marketplace and

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remember the S on Superman's and super

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girls costumes

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it's not an S okay knew that but newbies

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it's the family crest for the house of L

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if you wanted to know you care let's do

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something here we care about okay you've

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got a new book out here as far away from

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comic books as you can get as far away

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possibly front of UFOs as you can get

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although I think there's a connection

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mind Wars who's been watching you from

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the shadows hahaha I'm sorry I had to do

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that real spooky okay every time we look

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at something like this or I do the first

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thing that comes to mind is there were

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two versions of this movie based on a

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novel The Manchurian Candidate where

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this military guy is brainwashed so he

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gets a phone call and they say certain

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words he becomes completely subservient

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to the orders of his victors or his

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people who own his mind he can go off

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and kill somebody and then of course we

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had the story one time that sirhan

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sirhan who had killed robert kennedy may

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have been under some kind of mind

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control when he did it because allegedly

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he had no memory of it never wavered

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from his insistence that he just had no

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clue what he was doing

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you'll hear that a lot there's something

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called shooter syndrome where a lot of

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these mass killings are assassinations

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some of them are just exactly what they

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are you know some things just are what

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they appear to be on the surface but

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sometimes these people act in ways that

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will sort of suggest that maybe they

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were not operating of their own volition

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and of course the conspiracy crowd likes

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to associate it with MKULTRA which is

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what The Manchurian Candidate was really

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about and it's hard to prove it's hard

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to prove or just prove who was behind

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these people or what their real motives

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were don't go crazy but who knows well

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one thing that that I didn't know

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reading the book Murray and and that was

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about Ted Kaczynski I had no idea the

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Unabomber had a history as a child of

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some shadowy program related to his

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later

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handi social behavior and yeah you know

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what's interesting is that I didn't know

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any of this either and that was what was

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so fun about writing this book for Larry

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nine is we had some exposure to these

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topics of course because of the fields

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that were in and the previous books that

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we've written and Larry works for

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Homeland Security believe it or not in

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cyber security and he knows so much

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about surveillance and so we had a lot

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of experience and background and

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interest and a real passion for this

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stuff but we never kind of thought years

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ago we'd be writing about it and so

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we're doing all this research just going

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whoa you know whoa one whoa after

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another and it really and even the you

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know the UFO connection and it really

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opened our minds to how you know not

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every conspiracy theory is a joke

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basically we're talking about where

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there's smoke there's often fire or the

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beginning of a fire or the end of us

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fire will have some kind of fire coming

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588
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and nukes and you're listening to the

589
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podcast the gold standard of paranormal

590
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radio so is it possible some of these

591
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conspiracies about mind control and

592
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things like that are not just fanciful

593
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but based on fact that's certainly a

594
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topic being explored by Marie Jones and

595
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Larry Flaxman in the new book mind wars

596
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and what's going to the beginnings of

597
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this here what attracted you to the

598
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subject I mean I brought out Manchurian

599
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Candidate and sirhan sirhan as such

600
00:27:50,270 --> 00:27:48,180
obvious influences but what was your

601
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influence with you and Larry getting

602
00:27:59,870 --> 00:27:55,400
started on this many pronged approach

603
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basically what do we want to work on

604
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next

605
00:28:08,210 --> 00:28:05,010
combined with at the time who owned a

606
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conspiracy bookstore and runs a TV show

607
00:28:12,740 --> 00:28:10,080
and radio show and so we were discussing

608
00:28:16,670 --> 00:28:12,750
this a lot and just again our own

609
00:28:18,350 --> 00:28:16,680
interest and I think also a desire to

610
00:28:19,970 --> 00:28:18,360
break away a little bit from what we had

611
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:19,980
been doing which was paranormal

612
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metaphysics

613
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and sort of branch out a little so it

614
00:28:29,270 --> 00:28:25,740
was a number of things that came

615
00:28:32,450 --> 00:28:29,280
together we wanted to approach this

616
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subject as objectively as we could and

617
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:34,560
hopefully we did a good job of that

618
00:28:39,650 --> 00:28:37,170
because it is real easy when you say the

619
00:28:41,530 --> 00:28:39,660
words mind-control somebody's gonna say

620
00:28:44,330 --> 00:28:41,540
oh it was just a bunch of conspiracy

621
00:28:45,740 --> 00:28:44,340
crap and we really wanted to show well

622
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:45,750
no this is first of all it's a part of

623
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:47,970
our history it's a documented part of

624
00:28:52,790 --> 00:28:50,250
our history but it's also and this is

625
00:28:56,450 --> 00:28:52,800
the most fascinating thing for me a part

626
00:28:59,150 --> 00:28:56,460
of human behavior we engage in mind

627
00:29:02,090 --> 00:28:59,160
control and behavior modification and

628
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:02,100
manipulation techniques with each other

629
00:29:05,300 --> 00:29:03,210
all the time

630
00:29:07,190 --> 00:29:05,310
and a lot of those techniques are the

631
00:29:10,850 --> 00:29:07,200
same things that the government is doing

632
00:29:13,550 --> 00:29:10,860
or you know the secret society or some

633
00:29:14,870 --> 00:29:13,560
cult may be doing to its members and I

634
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:14,880
think that really was sort of

635
00:29:18,860 --> 00:29:16,650
mind-blowing to realize that this is a

636
00:29:21,650 --> 00:29:18,870
really fundamental part of human nature

637
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:21,660
the desire to control

638
00:29:26,270 --> 00:29:23,490
all the thoughts and behaviors of

639
00:29:28,220 --> 00:29:26,280
someone else yeah look at 35 hours on

640
00:29:30,860 --> 00:29:28,230
average of television watching and

641
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:30,870
millions upon millions of Americans

642
00:29:36,110 --> 00:29:32,730
walking around in a state of waking coma

643
00:29:38,060 --> 00:29:36,120
and this mind control becomes very very

644
00:29:44,390 --> 00:29:38,070
I think important and she'll be a

645
00:29:46,970 --> 00:29:44,400
front-burner issue maybe we were

646
00:29:49,610 --> 00:29:46,980
thinking of ourselves as a little bit of

647
00:29:51,140 --> 00:29:49,620
Crusaders if we could get a book out

648
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:51,150
that's a little more mainstream

649
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:53,730
maybe it'll wake some people up you know

650
00:29:58,550 --> 00:29:56,130
we still run into that sort of knee-jerk

651
00:30:04,640 --> 00:29:58,560
reaction from people that oh this is

652
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:04,650
just movies you know along with your

653
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contract that new page also offer you

654
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some sort of security personnel to

655
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protect your your Heinie's and you know

656
00:30:20,330 --> 00:30:16,200
I will tell you neither one of us has

657
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:20,340
had any issues the only book that I ever

658
00:30:26,030 --> 00:30:23,850
wrote where I had death threats was my

659
00:30:27,530 --> 00:30:26,040
first book and that was science and I

660
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:27,540
think we might have talked about that

661
00:30:33,950 --> 00:30:30,810
book years ago psi ANSI which was about

662
00:30:35,870 --> 00:30:33,960
quantum physics in the paranormal and I

663
00:30:39,290 --> 00:30:35,880
wrote that alone I hadn't met Larry yet

664
00:30:41,570 --> 00:30:39,300
I got so many death threats from the

665
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:41,580
religious fundamentalist community I

666
00:30:47,330 --> 00:30:44,490
guess you could say because in the book

667
00:30:50,390 --> 00:30:47,340
I was sort of equating different

668
00:30:54,260 --> 00:30:50,400
scientific principles with godly powers

669
00:30:56,930 --> 00:30:54,270
and I actually talked to the FBI and

670
00:30:59,150 --> 00:30:56,940
Larry actually when I did meet him later

671
00:31:01,750 --> 00:30:59,160
he was able to help me to because I was

672
00:31:04,010 --> 00:31:01,760
getting emails with threats from these

673
00:31:07,010 --> 00:31:04,020
extremists and we've written about a lot

674
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:07,020
of different individual things and I

675
00:31:11,750 --> 00:31:08,850
thought for sure this book was gonna get

676
00:31:13,850 --> 00:31:11,760
me trouble or Larry even worse though

677
00:31:15,470 --> 00:31:13,860
but we've had no problem if thing is

678
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:15,480
we're not writing about anything that

679
00:31:21,170 --> 00:31:18,930
isn't provable or yeah it has a paper

680
00:31:25,100 --> 00:31:21,180
like the Church Committee I mean as a

681
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:25,110
classic example of Richard Helms we were

682
00:31:29,090 --> 00:31:26,610
talking about MKULTRA Richard Helms

683
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:29,100
destroyed tens of thousands of documents

684
00:31:33,020 --> 00:31:31,530
but he missed some and of course Frank

685
00:31:35,090 --> 00:31:33,030
church was able to take them up and you

686
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:35,100
did a good job in the book pointing out

687
00:31:39,810 --> 00:31:35,650
the

688
00:31:42,330 --> 00:31:39,820
of that revelation can you imagine what

689
00:31:44,250 --> 00:31:42,340
he destroyed I mean I see him some of

690
00:31:46,590 --> 00:31:44,260
the documents that the Freedom of

691
00:31:49,770 --> 00:31:46,600
Information Act managed to dig out I

692
00:31:53,100 --> 00:31:49,780
can't even imagine what got destroyed

693
00:31:54,930 --> 00:31:53,110
and what we will witnesses that may

694
00:31:58,049 --> 00:31:54,940
still be alive because a lot of the

695
00:31:59,760 --> 00:31:58,059
victims of MKULTRA were sort of brought

696
00:32:01,110 --> 00:31:59,770
in when they were children so they're

697
00:32:03,180 --> 00:32:01,120
you know they're still around they're

698
00:32:06,049 --> 00:32:03,190
still experiencing PTSD and

699
00:32:09,750 --> 00:32:06,059
what-have-you but it's like the UFO

700
00:32:11,310 --> 00:32:09,760
arenas so much has been kept from the

701
00:32:14,250 --> 00:32:11,320
public and you know everybody's

702
00:32:16,169 --> 00:32:14,260
screaming about disclosure but with this

703
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:16,179
subject matter I just it's just so

704
00:32:22,470 --> 00:32:20,290
sinister to do something like obviously

705
00:32:24,690 --> 00:32:22,480
you're hiding some guilt especially

706
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:24,700
characters like Sidney Gottlieb who was

707
00:32:28,260 --> 00:32:26,890
the head of the Army chemical Corps yeah

708
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:28,270
just some of the stories I've heard

709
00:32:32,790 --> 00:32:30,250
through the grapevine about his

710
00:32:38,970 --> 00:32:32,800
activities so just I mean the stuff of

711
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:38,980
nightmares literally we brought these

712
00:32:44,700 --> 00:32:42,130
Nazis over after World War two and we we

713
00:32:47,010 --> 00:32:44,710
treated them like royalty so that we

714
00:32:48,540 --> 00:32:47,020
could learn not just their technology

715
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:48,550
and scientific achievements and

716
00:32:53,220 --> 00:32:50,410
advancements but their torture methods

717
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:53,230
and their mind control techniques a lot

718
00:32:58,110 --> 00:32:55,570
of which was incorporated into MKULTRA

719
00:33:00,419 --> 00:32:58,120
this is just such a black mark on

720
00:33:03,390 --> 00:33:00,429
American history that a lot of people

721
00:33:06,570 --> 00:33:03,400
still think is a TV movie is the stuff

722
00:33:08,970 --> 00:33:06,580
of fiction I very recently got to

723
00:33:12,150 --> 00:33:08,980
finally see conspiracy theory with Mel

724
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:12,160
Gibson and Julia Roberts and was blown

725
00:33:15,919 --> 00:33:14,050
away to find out that it was about an

726
00:33:19,650 --> 00:33:15,929
MKULTRA survivor who was having

727
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:19,660
flashbacks and was incredibly well made

728
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:22,690
and it talked about his triggers it was

729
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:24,250
a fantastic movie that had never

730
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:26,650
bothered to watch before so there's

731
00:33:32,070 --> 00:33:29,250
still as I think a lot of resistance to

732
00:33:34,110 --> 00:33:32,080
admitting that wow this stuff is really

733
00:33:36,030 --> 00:33:34,120
out there that's happened to us already

734
00:33:37,620 --> 00:33:36,040
and it still is happening

735
00:33:40,049 --> 00:33:37,630
well the question I guess I would have

736
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:40,059
here is we see things like this

737
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:42,610
happening experiments in mind-control

738
00:33:49,810 --> 00:33:46,610
how serious does it get yes

739
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:49,820
well and if we go back to MKULTRA and

740
00:33:54,669 --> 00:33:52,130
you want to talk about the documents

741
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:54,679
that were made public we're talking

742
00:34:01,390 --> 00:33:57,850
everything from physical sexual

743
00:34:04,570 --> 00:34:01,400
psychological abuse to torture sensory

744
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:04,580
food water deprivation the use of

745
00:34:09,810 --> 00:34:07,490
hypnosis in conjunction with drugs and

746
00:34:12,330 --> 00:34:09,820
other methods to alter behavior

747
00:34:14,980 --> 00:34:12,340
literally the destruction of

748
00:34:17,919 --> 00:34:14,990
personalities in order to create what

749
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:17,929
are called alter personalities one of

750
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:20,450
which might be an assassin and and one

751
00:34:25,180 --> 00:34:23,090
if which might be the one that forgets

752
00:34:26,859 --> 00:34:25,190
everything like in the case of sirhan

753
00:34:29,409 --> 00:34:26,869
sirhan you might have someone who

754
00:34:32,770 --> 00:34:29,419
literally hears a trigger word or phrase

755
00:34:34,990 --> 00:34:32,780
and the assassin personality takes over

756
00:34:38,109 --> 00:34:35,000
once that personalities done its job

757
00:34:42,909 --> 00:34:38,119
then it's almost like you know the mist

758
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:42,919
impossible or it self-destructs and just

759
00:34:48,540 --> 00:34:45,050
all kinds of awful things and a lot of

760
00:34:52,290 --> 00:34:48,550
it done on children this this involved

761
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:52,300
orphanages mental institutions prisons

762
00:35:01,380 --> 00:34:56,410
unwed mother homes colleges universities

763
00:35:04,599 --> 00:35:01,390
hospitals and very little of it was

764
00:35:06,730 --> 00:35:04,609
voluntary so in other words a lot of the

765
00:35:09,550 --> 00:35:06,740
victims and subjects had no idea they

766
00:35:11,620 --> 00:35:09,560
were probably incapacitated to no idea

767
00:35:13,570 --> 00:35:11,630
they were being used as guinea pigs and

768
00:35:17,099 --> 00:35:13,580
the ones that did probably have no

769
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:17,109
choice if you think about prisoners

770
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:21,650
whitey bulger was also an MKULTRA victim

771
00:35:26,140 --> 00:35:24,050
and he willingly when he was in prison

772
00:35:27,460 --> 00:35:26,150
he's the Irish mobster that Johnny Depp

773
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:27,470
is going to be playing in an upcoming

774
00:35:34,810 --> 00:35:32,690
movie you know extra matter of fact he

775
00:35:37,750 --> 00:35:34,820
actually volunteered when he was in jail

776
00:35:39,609 --> 00:35:37,760
to get lesser jail time and he took part

777
00:35:42,580 --> 00:35:39,619
in an experiment that involved an

778
00:35:46,210 --> 00:35:42,590
alleged Alzheimer's drug and he now this

779
00:35:48,820 --> 00:35:46,220
is a tough hardened vicious criminal and

780
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:48,830
he was quoted by one of his cellmates a

781
00:35:52,570 --> 00:35:50,570
saying that it was just it was a

782
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:52,580
nightmare it was an ongoing nightmare

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is the wrong tire of the Cyclopes other

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books when you're listening to the

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[Music]

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you hear Chris or Brian's hypnotic voice

910
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or something like that or seven ambulant

911
00:41:31,140 --> 00:41:28,090
voice we haven't decided yet you know I

912
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remember back in the 90s there were a

913
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number of women that came forward that

914
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had stories that were so over-the-top

915
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and so unbelievable and of course I

916
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could start throwing names out there

917
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like Cathy O'Brien it's been hard for me

918
00:41:45,690 --> 00:41:43,450
to forget that name and also Arizona

919
00:41:47,550 --> 00:41:45,700
Wilder was another one and there were a

920
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number of them that were making claims

921
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of high public officials being involved

922
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in in all sorts of nefarious deviant

923
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behavior whether it be drug use

924
00:42:01,380 --> 00:41:59,200
pedophilia I mean some of the

925
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allegations were just so over the top

926
00:42:05,490 --> 00:42:03,700
sounding that was very difficult I think

927
00:42:07,860 --> 00:42:05,500
for most people to wrap their heads

928
00:42:11,340 --> 00:42:07,870
around the even the possibility that

929
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:11,350
these claims were true however the more

930
00:42:18,060 --> 00:42:15,010
we know about how the upper echelons of

931
00:42:21,270 --> 00:42:18,070
power tend to feel like they're

932
00:42:23,490 --> 00:42:21,280
completely Teflon it becomes less and

933
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:23,500
less unbelievable I think as time goes

934
00:42:28,310 --> 00:42:26,530
on you are very careful in how you and

935
00:42:30,570 --> 00:42:28,320
Larry were very careful on how you

936
00:42:32,190 --> 00:42:30,580
presented some of the information and

937
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:32,200
you did not get into some of the

938
00:42:36,900 --> 00:42:34,450
salacious details where do you come down

939
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:36,910
on some of those claims this is hard

940
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:39,130
it's very tough because you don't want

941
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:42,450
to say that somebody is lying or

942
00:42:47,340 --> 00:42:44,890
misinterpreting what happened to them or

943
00:42:48,870 --> 00:42:47,350
making it up you don't want to say

944
00:42:50,730 --> 00:42:48,880
they're lying at the same time you don't

945
00:42:54,300 --> 00:42:50,740
want to believe everything they say it's

946
00:42:57,330 --> 00:42:54,310
really hard to do if somebody can

947
00:42:58,950 --> 00:42:57,340
present more circumcised develop

948
00:43:01,440 --> 00:42:58,960
circumstantial evidence because really

949
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:01,450
you know it's not proof it wouldn't

950
00:43:06,330 --> 00:43:03,970
stand up in court but the more dots

951
00:43:10,590 --> 00:43:06,340
somebody can connect the more inclined I

952
00:43:12,210 --> 00:43:10,600
am as a writer to maybe not believe the

953
00:43:15,150 --> 00:43:12,220
entire story but think that there are

954
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:15,160
telling partial truths possibly the

955
00:43:19,020 --> 00:43:17,290
problem with MKULTRA and the people that

956
00:43:21,300 --> 00:43:19,030
weren't cemented on is a lot of it

957
00:43:23,700 --> 00:43:21,310
involved psychological manipulation the

958
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:23,710
use of drugs and altered their

959
00:43:28,710 --> 00:43:25,690
personalities not just temporary

960
00:43:30,900 --> 00:43:28,720
but permanently and it may very well be

961
00:43:33,630 --> 00:43:30,910
that they were programmed just as the

962
00:43:36,870 --> 00:43:33,640
way a cult leader programs his or her

963
00:43:39,660 --> 00:43:36,880
members to retain certain memories or to

964
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:39,670
think something happened that didn't for

965
00:43:44,970 --> 00:43:42,490
disinformation for misinformation what

966
00:43:48,330 --> 00:43:44,980
whatever it may be it's very difficult

967
00:43:50,460 --> 00:43:48,340
we wanted to present these people we

968
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:50,470
wanted to get the information out

969
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:53,170
leave it to readers to go dig in and

970
00:43:56,490 --> 00:43:55,090
read their books you know Kathleen

971
00:43:59,910 --> 00:43:56,500
Sullivan has a great book called

972
00:44:03,090 --> 00:43:59,920
unshackled Carol ruts a nation betrayed

973
00:44:05,670 --> 00:44:03,100
read these books they get into the

974
00:44:08,940 --> 00:44:05,680
heavy-duty stuff I think you have to use

975
00:44:10,980 --> 00:44:08,950
some level of discernment but having

976
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:10,990
worked in the UFO field first long as I

977
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:12,490
did I can tell you that there are a lot

978
00:44:18,270 --> 00:44:15,850
of people who are frauds there are a lot

979
00:44:19,890 --> 00:44:18,280
of people who just want attention there

980
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:19,900
are a lot of people who had something

981
00:44:23,490 --> 00:44:21,370
happen but they don't know how to

982
00:44:25,050 --> 00:44:23,500
correctly interpret it and there are a

983
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:25,060
lot of people that are telling the damn

984
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:27,610
truth and it is up to us to try to

985
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:29,890
figure out what's what and it's hard

986
00:44:38,250 --> 00:44:34,450
yeah it's hard saying that we did a

987
00:44:40,380 --> 00:44:38,260
decent job of not writing either side of

988
00:44:42,540 --> 00:44:40,390
the fence because well you didn't

989
00:44:44,340 --> 00:44:42,550
sensationalize it I think as you stated

990
00:44:47,580 --> 00:44:44,350
at the beginning of our show here you

991
00:44:49,740 --> 00:44:47,590
really and I agree that you accomplished

992
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:49,750
this you really attempted to the best of

993
00:44:52,650 --> 00:44:51,130
your abilities to be as objective as

994
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:52,660
possible and that's one thing that's

995
00:44:56,490 --> 00:44:55,210
true but very clear in the book because

996
00:44:58,650 --> 00:44:56,500
this you know you're tiptoeing through

997
00:45:01,290 --> 00:44:58,660
some some minefields here with some of

998
00:45:02,940 --> 00:45:01,300
the information now let's let's kind of

999
00:45:06,510 --> 00:45:02,950
bring this back to the beginning I

1000
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:06,520
didn't get a real good sense of when we

1001
00:45:11,850 --> 00:45:08,650
really first started to manipulate

1002
00:45:14,340 --> 00:45:11,860
people with an agenda of course the

1003
00:45:15,660 --> 00:45:14,350
post-world War two period springs to

1004
00:45:17,370 --> 00:45:15,670
mind as you mentioned Operation

1005
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:17,380
Paperclip bringing the Nazi scientists

1006
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:19,450
over we brought Japanese scientists over

1007
00:45:26,100 --> 00:45:23,290
with bacteriological expertise but do we

1008
00:45:28,650 --> 00:45:26,110
have any indication of even earlier

1009
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:28,660
attempts at modifying behavior for a

1010
00:45:33,810 --> 00:45:30,370
particular agenda by the government

1011
00:45:38,070 --> 00:45:33,820
prior to World War two you talk about

1012
00:45:39,269 --> 00:45:38,080
history before that it may not so much

1013
00:45:44,370 --> 00:45:39,279
have been the govern

1014
00:45:46,199 --> 00:45:44,380
as it was religious figures certainly

1015
00:45:49,169 --> 00:45:46,209
throughout the Middle Ages

1016
00:45:50,909 --> 00:45:49,179
you know our ancient ancestors had their

1017
00:45:55,349 --> 00:45:50,919
own ways of doing this and they used

1018
00:46:03,059 --> 00:45:55,359
ritual it was a very powerful tool in

1019
00:46:04,199 --> 00:46:03,069
the Inquisition all this stuff realize

1020
00:46:06,689 --> 00:46:04,209
that we were gonna be writing about

1021
00:46:10,589 --> 00:46:06,699
torture because I never thought that was

1022
00:46:13,229 --> 00:46:10,599
a method of mind control but yeah it is

1023
00:46:14,939 --> 00:46:13,239
a behavioral modification I mean

1024
00:46:16,380 --> 00:46:14,949
literally when you torture somebody what

1025
00:46:18,479 --> 00:46:16,390
are you trying to do you're trying to

1026
00:46:20,519 --> 00:46:18,489
break them down get them to either

1027
00:46:26,130 --> 00:46:20,529
confess to something they did or didn't

1028
00:46:29,099 --> 00:46:26,140
do or get them to join your crusade

1029
00:46:31,370 --> 00:46:29,109
whether you believe in it or not so we

1030
00:46:35,370 --> 00:46:31,380
started to see how torture and ritual

1031
00:46:37,049 --> 00:46:35,380
were used prior to the more modern

1032
00:46:40,769 --> 00:46:37,059
techniques that started maybe around

1033
00:46:42,899 --> 00:46:40,779
World War one and even before that I

1034
00:46:45,989 --> 00:46:42,909
mean let's go back to primitive times I

1035
00:46:48,809 --> 00:46:45,999
would suggest that we have been doing

1036
00:46:51,299 --> 00:46:48,819
this to each other since the first day

1037
00:46:53,669 --> 00:46:51,309
humans ever walked the earth because

1038
00:46:56,669 --> 00:46:53,679
again it's such a part of our behavior

1039
00:46:58,319 --> 00:46:56,679
to want to control other people to want

1040
00:47:02,099 --> 00:46:58,329
to change their behavior and their

1041
00:47:04,919 --> 00:47:02,109
thoughts so their raw definition here is

1042
00:47:07,409 --> 00:47:04,929
any effort to persuade people to believe

1043
00:47:10,979 --> 00:47:07,419
something or to do something is some

1044
00:47:12,359 --> 00:47:10,989
form of mind control and my dwars then

1045
00:47:20,579 --> 00:47:12,369
would be something where you want them

1046
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:20,589
to do something bad there are other

1047
00:47:25,709 --> 00:47:24,249
forces at war to try to tell us what to

1048
00:47:27,959 --> 00:47:25,719
think and what to believe in how to

1049
00:47:29,489 --> 00:47:27,969
behave most people go through life not

1050
00:47:32,669 --> 00:47:29,499
even thinking about what they're

1051
00:47:35,179 --> 00:47:32,679
thinking about so we're always at war

1052
00:47:37,890 --> 00:47:35,189
with other influences instead of

1053
00:47:39,539 --> 00:47:37,900
operating off of our own thoughts and

1054
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:39,549
our own behaviors and actions that come

1055
00:47:43,769 --> 00:47:42,249
from a much deeper source I think a lot

1056
00:47:46,289 --> 00:47:43,779
of us have probably forgot how to do

1057
00:47:48,509 --> 00:47:46,299
that so that's kind of where the title

1058
00:47:51,749 --> 00:47:48,519
comes into play but certainly the fact

1059
00:47:53,339 --> 00:47:51,759
that we now have corporations and

1060
00:47:56,950 --> 00:47:53,349
government

1061
00:47:58,989 --> 00:47:56,960
private parties vying to tell us what to

1062
00:48:02,589 --> 00:47:58,999
buy what to consume what to do what to

1063
00:48:04,210 --> 00:48:02,599
wear how to behave you know it's just

1064
00:48:06,819 --> 00:48:04,220
everywhere it's a constant bombardment

1065
00:48:11,140 --> 00:48:06,829
of control for your mind and your

1066
00:48:14,529 --> 00:48:11,150
thoughts but when does it transfer from

1067
00:48:17,319 --> 00:48:14,539
simple persuasion by this detergent by

1068
00:48:20,289 --> 00:48:17,329
the new iphone by the new samsung galaxy

1069
00:48:24,700 --> 00:48:20,299
to something that has a potentially evil

1070
00:48:28,469 --> 00:48:24,710
impact you know there's a lot of

1071
00:48:33,039 --> 00:48:28,479
speculation as to the motives behind

1072
00:48:34,599 --> 00:48:33,049
keeping and this kind of gets into the

1073
00:48:36,099 --> 00:48:34,609
conspiracy theory end of things but

1074
00:48:39,430 --> 00:48:36,109
there are a lot of people that believe

1075
00:48:41,739 --> 00:48:39,440
that we're purposely being distracted so

1076
00:48:43,989 --> 00:48:41,749
that we don't pay attention to what's

1077
00:48:46,599 --> 00:48:43,999
going on around us and I don't know if

1078
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:46,609
that's true or not it sounds reasonable

1079
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:49,130
I mean if you want to keep the populace

1080
00:48:54,339 --> 00:48:52,729
going according to the status quo what

1081
00:48:56,529 --> 00:48:54,349
better what better way to do that than

1082
00:48:58,420 --> 00:48:56,539
to keep them distracted with gadgets and

1083
00:49:03,249 --> 00:48:58,430
whatnots and things that occupy their

1084
00:49:04,959 --> 00:49:03,259
time and their minds hmm obviously if

1085
00:49:07,839 --> 00:49:04,969
certainly if people who are occupied at

1086
00:49:10,539 --> 00:49:07,849
something they don't see or they fail to

1087
00:49:12,279 --> 00:49:10,549
see something that's going on about them

1088
00:49:14,049 --> 00:49:12,289
that might be important so you could say

1089
00:49:21,819 --> 00:49:14,059
mind control here is a form of

1090
00:49:24,150 --> 00:49:21,829
misdirection to tional eyes distracting

1091
00:49:27,430 --> 00:49:24,160
yeah I heard a wonderful phrase a

1092
00:49:28,690 --> 00:49:27,440
journalist said it's astroturf thing and

1093
00:49:32,130 --> 00:49:28,700
I thought oh that's kind of a cool

1094
00:49:35,950 --> 00:49:32,140
phrase because astroturf is fake grass

1095
00:49:37,959 --> 00:49:35,960
so you know you put on all this you try

1096
00:49:40,359 --> 00:49:37,969
to get people to focus on the fake stuff

1097
00:49:42,099 --> 00:49:40,369
and they don't even realize after a

1098
00:49:43,809 --> 00:49:42,109
while that they're standing on astroturf

1099
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:43,819
and not real grass I thought that was

1100
00:49:49,739 --> 00:49:46,249
kind of a clever way to put it yeah I

1101
00:49:51,940 --> 00:49:49,749
think them the media does that a lot by

1102
00:49:56,079 --> 00:49:51,950
putting out stories about who Taylor

1103
00:49:59,529 --> 00:49:56,089
Swift is dating and then not putting out

1104
00:50:02,200 --> 00:49:59,539
stories about things that really are are

1105
00:50:05,820 --> 00:50:02,210
affecting us or that would make us very

1106
00:50:09,970 --> 00:50:05,830
angry you know

1107
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:09,980
choosing what we call news I mean news

1108
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is not news anymore news is somebody

1109
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:15,080
else deciding well you have to go up the

1110
00:50:18,370 --> 00:50:16,610
food chain a little bit on that and

1111
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:18,380
point out that you know we have an

1112
00:50:23,260 --> 00:50:20,570
incredible consolidation of corporate

1113
00:50:25,390 --> 00:50:23,270
power that is totally you know the

1114
00:50:29,170 --> 00:50:25,400
media's totally owns lock stock and

1115
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:29,180
barrel by six corporations and once you

1116
00:50:35,380 --> 00:50:31,970
consolidate power in that regard you're

1117
00:50:37,540 --> 00:50:35,390
going to be dictating a lot of you know

1118
00:50:40,450 --> 00:50:37,550
editorializing and in the slant of

1119
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things who's paying for the advertising

1120
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and I was here in California they just

1121
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:48,140
passed a law for forced vaccinations for

1122
00:50:53,770 --> 00:50:51,410
children which I am totally against I'm

1123
00:50:55,470 --> 00:50:53,780
not an anti Baxter I mean inform Baxter

1124
00:50:58,870 --> 00:50:55,480
but one of the things that we found out

1125
00:51:02,020 --> 00:50:58,880
the activist groups is how many millions

1126
00:51:04,810 --> 00:51:02,030
of dollars marked and other vaccine

1127
00:51:07,090 --> 00:51:04,820
manufacturers were giving to the

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politicians and this included Democrats

1129
00:51:12,190 --> 00:51:09,530
and Republicans who voted for it but

1130
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:12,200
also the commercials and there were

1131
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:14,330
times I'd be watching a show and there'd

1132
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:16,610
be three or four pro-vaccine commercials

1133
00:51:22,180 --> 00:51:20,570
and not one counterpoint and I see that

1134
00:51:23,890 --> 00:51:22,190
I am aware of it you know as a writer

1135
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I've been aware of that for a long time

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[Music]

1189
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welcome back into the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio and now

1191
00:54:14,849 --> 00:54:12,589
here's Jane Steinberg chris is under

1192
00:54:18,910 --> 00:54:14,859
some sort of mind-control it's not

1193
00:54:21,190 --> 00:54:18,920
MKULTRA it's too much coffee

1194
00:54:22,900 --> 00:54:21,200
it's coffee control alright so you're

1195
00:54:25,089 --> 00:54:22,910
talking about here the campaign for

1196
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:25,099
vaccination and you see that of course

1197
00:54:29,289 --> 00:54:27,650
the drug manufacturers wanted not

1198
00:54:31,450 --> 00:54:29,299
because it's helping people it's because

1199
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:31,460
it's helping their bottom line so that's

1200
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:33,170
what you object to you're not objecting

1201
00:54:38,170 --> 00:54:35,690
to the vaccinations in theory you're

1202
00:54:44,249 --> 00:54:38,180
objecting to the way it's being done to

1203
00:54:46,989 --> 00:54:44,259
enhance someone's bottom line or been

1204
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:46,999
grievously injured from vaccines that

1205
00:54:52,210 --> 00:54:50,690
cannot be vaccinated with everything and

1206
00:54:54,190 --> 00:54:52,220
they're not telling you who's financing

1207
00:54:57,789 --> 00:54:54,200
all of this and they're not telling you

1208
00:55:00,579 --> 00:54:57,799
that just recently the government pretty

1209
00:55:03,190 --> 00:55:00,589
much lifted all the liability from

1210
00:55:04,900 --> 00:55:03,200
vaccine manufacturers for vaccine

1211
00:55:07,329 --> 00:55:04,910
injuries and deaths which means that

1212
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:07,339
they have carte blanche now to put out

1213
00:55:11,349 --> 00:55:08,930
anything they want I mean we're not

1214
00:55:13,359 --> 00:55:11,359
learning all of the pieces of puzzle

1215
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:13,369
they're putting out stories about oh

1216
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:15,410
this woman just died if the measles no

1217
00:55:19,809 --> 00:55:17,450
she died of pneumonia she didn't die you

1218
00:55:22,089 --> 00:55:19,819
know and now I see all of the pieces

1219
00:55:25,329 --> 00:55:22,099
because having written this book and

1220
00:55:28,569 --> 00:55:25,339
others I've become pretty observant but

1221
00:55:30,729 --> 00:55:28,579
most people only hear what the media -

1222
00:55:32,109 --> 00:55:30,739
what dr. oz with the media - and it

1223
00:55:35,170 --> 00:55:32,119
could be vaccines it could be anything

1224
00:55:36,430 --> 00:55:35,180
it could be GMOs it could be fluoride in

1225
00:55:41,319 --> 00:55:36,440
your water what happened you know and

1226
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:41,329
also mood altering drugs my god yeah

1227
00:55:48,900 --> 00:55:44,450
yeah your Prozac zanuck all these mood

1228
00:55:52,209 --> 00:55:48,910
stabilizers are in effect a very large

1229
00:55:55,029 --> 00:55:52,219
program of societal and mind control

1230
00:55:58,269 --> 00:55:55,039
behavioral control absolutely and I used

1231
00:56:00,609 --> 00:55:58,279
to always think that this was BS I just

1232
00:56:02,700 --> 00:56:00,619
was I'm still an optimist at heart but I

1233
00:56:05,859 --> 00:56:02,710
always thought oh please mine you know

1234
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:05,869
that if you keep the populace numbed and

1235
00:56:09,900 --> 00:56:06,970
dumbed

1236
00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:09,910
you can control them a lot easier now we

1237
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:12,730
know we know that the vast majority of

1238
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:14,770
wealth and power in this country if not

1239
00:56:18,930 --> 00:56:16,690
the entire planet is in the hands of a

1240
00:56:20,730 --> 00:56:18,940
very small group of people and we know

1241
00:56:22,350 --> 00:56:20,740
that every time that power and authority

1242
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:22,360
is challenged

1243
00:56:26,670 --> 00:56:24,370
there is huge backlash against the

1244
00:56:29,130 --> 00:56:26,680
populace so once you become aware of

1245
00:56:32,190 --> 00:56:29,140
that pattern you really start to see

1246
00:56:34,530 --> 00:56:32,200
more the manipulation but again we still

1247
00:56:37,260 --> 00:56:34,540
have I think a majority of people who

1248
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:37,270
would rather not think about it because

1249
00:56:42,780 --> 00:56:40,570
it's it's scary not own up to it because

1250
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:42,790
then it might make them responsible for

1251
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:45,010
their own behavior or changing their

1252
00:56:50,420 --> 00:56:48,010
behavior I don't know I guess fear is

1253
00:56:52,650 --> 00:56:50,430
probably the prime reason why people

1254
00:56:55,380 --> 00:56:52,660
want to just believe what they're told

1255
00:56:59,070 --> 00:56:55,390
it's a lot easier to believe what you're

1256
00:57:01,380 --> 00:56:59,080
told then to do some research and say

1257
00:57:02,940 --> 00:57:01,390
for yourself and we see this on social

1258
00:57:05,700 --> 00:57:02,950
networking everyday where somebody

1259
00:57:07,830 --> 00:57:05,710
passes around a fake news story and

1260
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:07,840
everybody's reacting as if it's real

1261
00:57:10,830 --> 00:57:10,330
because nobody bothers to take the ten

1262
00:57:15,750 --> 00:57:10,840
minutes

1263
00:57:17,580 --> 00:57:15,760
to click on the link and read it but my

1264
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:17,590
favorite one was the picture of Abraham

1265
00:57:22,410 --> 00:57:19,930
Lincoln and it said can I believe

1266
00:57:28,380 --> 00:57:22,420
everything you read on the Internet

1267
00:57:30,150 --> 00:57:28,390
signed Abraham Lincoln yeah that's poor

1268
00:57:32,790 --> 00:57:30,160
guys that are no law in women that are

1269
00:57:35,310 --> 00:57:32,800
no longer with us and I think I've seen

1270
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:35,320
Tesla quotes that I tried so hard to

1271
00:57:40,500 --> 00:57:38,410
track to him that he never said and it's

1272
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:40,510
whatever people just want to believe

1273
00:57:45,270 --> 00:57:43,330
what they want to believe yeah or the

1274
00:57:46,380 --> 00:57:45,280
Albert Einstein quote when he was asked

1275
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:46,390
what's it like being the world's

1276
00:57:56,670 --> 00:57:54,130
smartest man he said go ask Tesla now

1277
00:57:59,130 --> 00:57:56,680
what we're looking here is things that

1278
00:58:02,040 --> 00:57:59,140
really can have a benign effect have

1279
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:02,050
silly messages on Twitter and stuff like

1280
00:58:07,020 --> 00:58:04,570
that but let's look at something that

1281
00:58:09,980 --> 00:58:07,030
has a serious effect so do you at all

1282
00:58:12,270 --> 00:58:09,990
feel that the authorities are doing

1283
00:58:15,330 --> 00:58:12,280
Manchurian Candidate sort of tricks

1284
00:58:18,570 --> 00:58:15,340
where they take assassins activate them

1285
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:18,580
with some kind of command of course we

1286
00:58:20,770 --> 00:58:20,050
have confessions of a dangerous mind

1287
00:58:23,980 --> 00:58:20,780
that

1288
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:23,990
movie right every time there is a mass

1289
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:26,930
shooting I have friends in the deep in

1290
00:58:31,540 --> 00:58:29,450
the conspiracy field that I call them

1291
00:58:33,700 --> 00:58:31,550
conspiracy extremists because to them

1292
00:58:35,500 --> 00:58:33,710
everything is a conspiracy and I feel

1293
00:58:37,030 --> 00:58:35,510
kind of like the truth is in the middle

1294
00:58:38,890 --> 00:58:37,040
you know you've got people that say oh

1295
00:58:40,930 --> 00:58:38,900
no everything is just what it is you'll

1296
00:58:43,450 --> 00:58:40,940
have people that say everything is is a

1297
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:43,460
conspiracy but I think I speak for Larry

1298
00:58:48,130 --> 00:58:46,250
on this as well I feel like it's the

1299
00:58:49,930 --> 00:58:48,140
truth is in the middle the truth is in

1300
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:49,940
the center that there's a little bit of

1301
00:58:56,470 --> 00:58:52,370
both at play I think that in the case of

1302
00:58:58,150 --> 00:58:56,480
some events there certainly is and again

1303
00:58:59,620 --> 00:58:58,160
I'm gonna say the phrase because I love

1304
00:59:01,720 --> 00:58:59,630
it so much because it's so applicable

1305
00:59:05,380 --> 00:59:01,730
there's enough circumstantial evidence

1306
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:05,390
to show that the government either ours

1307
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:08,930
or somebody else's was complicit that

1308
00:59:14,350 --> 00:59:10,850
you know maybe a corporate backing

1309
00:59:18,490 --> 00:59:14,360
helped something happen that something

1310
00:59:21,100 --> 00:59:18,500
was a false flag that possibly one of

1311
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:21,110
the one or two these mass shooters was

1312
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:24,050
under some kind of manipulation but that

1313
00:59:28,300 --> 00:59:26,330
manipulation could have been drugs you

1314
00:59:29,890 --> 00:59:28,310
know pharmaceuticals I know a lot of

1315
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:29,900
these guys were on all kinds of

1316
00:59:35,170 --> 00:59:32,930
different things it's so hard to say

1317
00:59:37,750 --> 00:59:35,180
without proves because when you start to

1318
00:59:39,430 --> 00:59:37,760
talk about this stuff you you know

1319
00:59:44,230 --> 00:59:39,440
people are gonna say you're crazy right

1320
00:59:48,070 --> 00:59:44,240
if you even suggest that Adam Lanza or

1321
00:59:50,170 --> 00:59:48,080
the Sandy Hook shootings or James Holmes

1322
00:59:52,590 --> 00:59:50,180
the Aurora theater shootings that maybe

1323
00:59:55,390 --> 00:59:52,600
they were under some kind of

1324
00:59:57,790 --> 00:59:55,400
manipulative mind control to bring about

1325
01:00:01,210 --> 00:59:57,800
a certain reaction from the public

1326
01:00:04,180 --> 01:00:01,220
people will say you're crazy but when

1327
01:00:06,850 --> 01:00:04,190
there's weird little details that come

1328
01:00:09,790 --> 01:00:06,860
up you can't ignore them you know

1329
01:00:12,610 --> 01:00:09,800
sometimes there really is more to the

1330
01:00:14,350 --> 01:00:12,620
story than meets the eye how about

1331
01:00:17,050 --> 01:00:14,360
looking at some of those details what

1332
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:17,060
things about these cases make it look as

1333
01:00:24,070 --> 01:00:21,770
if something more is involved somebody

1334
01:00:25,900 --> 01:00:24,080
that starts digging the second something

1335
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:25,910
like this happens now I know you know

1336
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:28,130
for the the people that I think lean

1337
01:00:32,250 --> 01:00:30,650
more heavily towards deep conspiracy

1338
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:32,260
maybe I'll say that sort of conspiracy

1339
01:00:36,180 --> 01:00:33,490
extremists

1340
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:36,190
we're talking about how a lot of these

1341
01:00:41,849 --> 01:00:39,130
shooter scenarios occur that the

1342
01:00:44,550 --> 01:00:41,859
government is enacting them and hiring

1343
01:00:47,940 --> 01:00:44,560
actors to play the victims and oh you

1344
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:47,950
can see this this woman was at Sandy

1345
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:50,410
Hook but she was also at the Boston

1346
01:00:54,570 --> 01:00:52,690
Marathon bombing and that these are all

1347
01:00:55,950 --> 01:00:54,580
being done to bring about something and

1348
01:00:57,990 --> 01:00:55,960
one of the things you hear the most is

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to bring about gun control control yeah

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01:01:01,170 --> 01:00:59,619
but what I found interesting is that

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01:01:03,870 --> 01:01:01,180
every time one of these things happen

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01:01:06,420 --> 01:01:03,880
gun sales skyrocket so I could turn

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01:01:10,290 --> 01:01:06,430
around and say maybe the NRA is behind

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01:01:12,839 --> 01:01:10,300
them because every type done sales go

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01:01:16,220 --> 01:01:12,849
through the roof more states enact open

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01:01:21,470 --> 01:01:16,230
carry laws so get into these weird

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01:01:23,370 --> 01:01:21,480
rabbit hole arguments with people so I

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01:01:26,250 --> 01:01:23,380
want to see what some of the more

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01:01:28,770 --> 01:01:26,260
serious conspiracy theorists are saying

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01:01:32,700 --> 01:01:28,780
and you know like the case with James

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01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:32,710
Holmes I mean if you look at him he

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01:01:37,530 --> 01:01:34,930
looks like he's crazy now does that mean

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01:01:40,770 --> 01:01:37,540
he's under government control maybe not

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01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:40,780
maybe but there you know he had such

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01:01:48,030 --> 01:01:44,530
access to two weapons and all kinds of

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01:01:50,730 --> 01:01:48,040
links to his own training in the

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01:01:54,470 --> 01:01:50,740
neuroscience field yeah I was gonna say

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01:02:00,210 --> 01:01:57,150
scholarship correct me if I'm wrong at a

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01:02:03,570 --> 01:02:00,220
very prestigious academic institution to

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01:02:06,329 --> 01:02:03,580
to study the brain yeah and he sort of

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01:02:08,820 --> 01:02:06,339
kind of fell apart we don't know why for

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01:02:11,130 --> 01:02:08,830
sure we don't know why somebody who was

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in a position where they had such an

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01:02:14,510 --> 01:02:12,609
understanding of the brain and

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01:02:16,890 --> 01:02:14,520
neuroscience and how it works

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01:02:18,450 --> 01:02:16,900
decided to you know turn around the next

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01:02:21,150 --> 01:02:18,460
day and go shoot up a theater full of

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01:02:23,460 --> 01:02:21,160
people that it's just creeping down the

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01:02:27,770 --> 01:02:23,470
case of Adam Lanza with the Sandy Hook

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01:02:31,050 --> 01:02:27,780
shootings his father was linked to a big

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01:02:33,180 --> 01:02:31,060
financial scandal involving the London

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01:02:36,180 --> 01:02:33,190
interbank offer greatly bore if

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01:02:37,650 --> 01:02:36,190
anybody's ever heard of that and Peter

1384
01:02:40,980 --> 01:02:37,660
Lanza actually did a lot of interviews

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01:02:43,140 --> 01:02:40,990
afterwards and a lot of these links came

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out later but I think by then you know

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01:02:46,660 --> 01:02:45,010
it was probably too late for the public

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01:02:49,180 --> 01:02:46,670
to pay attention

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01:02:50,980 --> 01:02:49,190
he pegged him it's just being a crazy

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01:02:53,770 --> 01:02:50,990
guy who showed up in elementary school

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01:02:55,750 --> 01:02:53,780
well what was the the conspiracy out

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01:02:57,730 --> 01:02:55,760
angle on this what would be the

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01:03:00,610 --> 01:02:57,740
motivation did to silence him because he

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was supposed to testify he supposedly

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01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:03,230
had some he was gonna whistleblower he

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had some inside information about how

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01:03:11,470 --> 01:03:08,870
they fraudulently adjusts the rates yeah

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01:03:13,420 --> 01:03:11,480
I don't understand finance at all but

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01:03:15,970 --> 01:03:13,430
apparently he understood that there was

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something with the banks in London that

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if you inflate rates or deflate them at

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a certain amount then people can profit

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01:03:26,260 --> 01:03:23,000
from trading yeah

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01:03:30,580 --> 01:03:26,270
and now to me does that seem like a

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01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:30,590
reason to get that guy shoot up a school

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01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:34,010
I don't know I think I would go after

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Peter Lanza let's continue with that we

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going to do in anticipation of the book

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mind Wars Marie Jones please continue

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01:08:27,060 --> 01:08:25,360
yes so we were talking about how when

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these events happened the Boston

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01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:29,950
Marathon bombing or these mass shootings

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01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:32,170
you know there's always a contingency

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01:08:37,020 --> 01:08:34,330
that immediately says that there's some

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01:08:39,270 --> 01:08:37,030
kind of conspiracy on behalf of the

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01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:39,280
government or maybe a particular

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01:08:44,220 --> 01:08:42,130
organization or corporation sometimes

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01:08:46,530 --> 01:08:44,230
you find really interesting links but it

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01:08:50,340 --> 01:08:46,540
doesn't always make sense enough to me I

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01:08:52,770 --> 01:08:50,350
like things to make sense because I also

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01:08:55,440 --> 01:08:52,780
understand somebody who's written a lot

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01:08:58,380 --> 01:08:55,450
about the brain and psychology and human

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01:09:00,000 --> 01:08:58,390
behavior that people do go nuts a lot of

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01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:00,010
times to pick up a bunch of guns and

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01:09:04,170 --> 01:09:01,810
they go you know they project their

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01:09:06,570 --> 01:09:04,180
inward hatred and self-loathing and an

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01:09:08,010 --> 01:09:06,580
anger outward and that is actually

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01:09:09,770 --> 01:09:08,020
something else that we wrote about the

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01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:09,780
beginning of the book we talked about

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01:09:15,450 --> 01:09:12,130
narcissistic personality disorder your

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01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:15,460
sociopaths I got the fame how even in

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01:09:21,210 --> 01:09:17,970
just our ordinary human interactions

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01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:21,220
these kinds of things happen domestic

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01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:23,530
violence abuse of women and children

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01:09:29,610 --> 01:09:27,010
even men all of this involves some of

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01:09:33,810 --> 01:09:29,620
these same concepts that somebody just

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01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:33,820
snaps and lashes out violently at other

1544
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:35,890
people it doesn't always mean that they

1545
01:09:40,980 --> 01:09:38,410
were set up or there is some kind of

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01:09:43,110 --> 01:09:40,990
stooge or Lee Harvey Oswald that they're

1547
01:09:45,660 --> 01:09:43,120
you know a patsy or something but

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01:09:47,790 --> 01:09:45,670
sometimes it might now we know from the

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01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:47,800
past looking at Lee Harvey Oswald

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01:09:57,090 --> 01:09:54,990
remember doing already dead yeah maybe

1551
01:09:59,240 --> 01:09:57,100
this stuff really is still going on and

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01:10:02,370 --> 01:09:59,250
Kay ultra supposedly ended in the

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01:10:03,540 --> 01:10:02,380
mid-1970s but I can't imagine that it

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01:10:06,510 --> 01:10:03,550
really ended I think you're probably

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01:10:09,090 --> 01:10:06,520
morphed into a number of really deep

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01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:09,100
black programs with different names that

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01:10:12,780 --> 01:10:10,810
you know we probably don't even know

1558
01:10:15,990 --> 01:10:12,790
about you also mentioned in the book

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01:10:17,940 --> 01:10:16,000
because of US law that some of this

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01:10:19,530 --> 01:10:17,950
research was actually conducted in

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01:10:23,310 --> 01:10:19,540
Canada

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01:10:26,430 --> 01:10:23,320
for legal purposes and you know in some

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01:10:29,100 --> 01:10:26,440
of these rendition centers that happened

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01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:29,110
during the the Gulf War where they would

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01:10:35,550 --> 01:10:32,410
fly the CIA would fly unmarked flights

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01:10:37,140 --> 01:10:35,560
to various countries and go ahead and

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01:10:39,420 --> 01:10:37,150
waterboard people and torture them

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01:10:42,390 --> 01:10:39,430
outside of the US so they wouldn't fall

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01:10:47,480 --> 01:10:42,400
under US law so some of this definitely

1570
01:10:57,900 --> 01:10:47,490
goes on in a way that seems pretty shady

1571
01:11:00,330 --> 01:10:57,910
you can get real paranoid people to some

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01:11:03,090 --> 01:11:00,340
extent we like to think the best of of

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01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:03,100
people and that includes the people that

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01:11:07,530 --> 01:11:05,650
make up our quote-unquote government are

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01:11:09,930 --> 01:11:07,540
they really that evil are they really

1576
01:11:12,930 --> 01:11:09,940
that sinister no I don't think as an

1577
01:11:16,020 --> 01:11:12,940
entire entity that that is true but I

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01:11:18,810 --> 01:11:16,030
certainly certainly think that there are

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01:11:21,450 --> 01:11:18,820
people with groups within the government

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01:11:24,150 --> 01:11:21,460
within our military you know there are

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01:11:26,490 --> 01:11:24,160
corporate executives that that are

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01:11:28,770 --> 01:11:26,500
capable of this because of their own

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01:11:31,230 --> 01:11:28,780
desire their greed their ego their

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01:11:34,470 --> 01:11:31,240
whatever their desire to keep the status

1585
01:11:36,330 --> 01:11:34,480
quo where you know they're the 1% we're

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01:11:38,580 --> 01:11:36,340
the 99 I think that those people

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01:11:40,260 --> 01:11:38,590
definitely exist but I don't want to

1588
01:11:41,850 --> 01:11:40,270
make any kind of blanket statements

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01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:41,860
about the government as a whole I don't

1590
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:43,570
think every single Senate or Congress

1591
01:11:50,310 --> 01:11:48,130
person knows about this stuff you would

1592
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:50,320
hope not I mean there's no hope for us

1593
01:11:55,860 --> 01:11:53,290
so if they do one thing I saw on the

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01:11:58,260 --> 01:11:55,870
internet that I really appreciated was

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01:12:00,060 --> 01:11:58,270
somebody had a group of senators

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01:12:02,970 --> 01:12:00,070
standing in front of a microphone in

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01:12:05,420 --> 01:12:02,980
their seats all had logos from all the

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01:12:07,830 --> 01:12:05,430
corporations that have donated to their

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01:12:10,020 --> 01:12:07,840
campaigns in the past like kinda like

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01:12:12,210 --> 01:12:10,030
NASCAR racers yeah and wouldn't it be

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01:12:14,580 --> 01:12:12,220
cool if if all our Congress people were

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01:12:16,790 --> 01:12:14,590
required to wear buttons or stickers uh

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01:12:19,830 --> 01:12:16,800
you know with all the names of their

1604
01:12:21,420 --> 01:12:19,840
their contributors so we could tell who

1605
01:12:24,990 --> 01:12:21,430
we're dealing with here and you know

1606
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:25,000
it's probably not all that hard for the

1607
01:12:29,190 --> 01:12:26,650
average person to find out that

1608
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:29,200
information but who has time you know

1609
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:32,650
our priorities are survive and in

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01:12:38,330 --> 01:12:34,330
kids off to school and go to our jobs

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01:12:42,690 --> 01:12:38,340
and pay our bills so we're relying upon

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01:12:45,540 --> 01:12:42,700
the handfuls of people that have the

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01:12:48,300 --> 01:12:45,550
time and the wherewithal to get that

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01:12:50,910 --> 01:12:48,310
information for us and maybe it's not

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always accurate information so again it

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should be the media doing this the

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Fourth Estate he would you would say and

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it used to be back in you know the

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Woodward and Bernstein back in the days

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when Mike Wallace and Morley Safer we're

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really on the case in 60 minutes

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everything is so homogenized and watered

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down now that we have to go to

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alternative news sources to even get a

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semblance of honesty and insight into

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what is actually going on politically

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socially can in this day and age

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economically I think there's so much

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01:13:26,820 --> 01:13:24,790
missing disinformation and just outright

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denial that's going on in the mainstream

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media that that anybody that thinks that

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they're getting the real story from CNN

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or fox or MSNBC or any of these outlets

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or just completely in denial or they're

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ignorant are the problem I think Kris

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also is that our cable news and I'll say

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Fox News is a big example though a lot

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of people watch fox news out there

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a lot of is that these are reality shows

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they dramatize all these stories they

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exaggerate them and they're designed to

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get you to react sometimes quite

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negatively and getting a reaction even

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01:14:09,990 --> 01:14:08,440
if it's anger hatred rage what's

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01:14:11,790 --> 01:14:10,000
interesting you know we bring up the

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01:14:13,950 --> 01:14:11,800
brought the point about alternative news

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01:14:16,290 --> 01:14:13,960
sources is that I found that a lot of

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01:14:18,300 --> 01:14:16,300
them have very shoddy reporting as well

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01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:18,310
they don't source their stories there's

1650
01:14:26,250 --> 01:14:22,570
no origin point they don't list their

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01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:26,260
source information so it really falls on

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01:14:29,970 --> 01:14:27,970
us too

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01:14:31,380 --> 01:14:29,980
even with the alternative news sources

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01:14:32,820 --> 01:14:31,390
I'm not saying all of them but some of

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the ones that I've stumbled across it's

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01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:34,990
been oh this is even worse than Fox News

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01:14:40,860 --> 01:14:38,530
how do you do diligence and failure but

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who's got the time other than us I mean

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I'm a writer you guys have

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oh and we do this a reason if you think

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about the general public I mean how many

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of your friends and family go to that

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extent and not because they're they're

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dumb or they're in denial but they're

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probably already exhausted just from

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living there and this is like oh now

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I've got to go dig out so I think it

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just becomes it's just so much easier to

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accept what's told to you and I think

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that's very tragic well you see

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something happened in broadcast news a

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few decades ago now originally you

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presented the news as a public service

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yeah on TV and radio stations it was

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part of your FCC mandate to get your

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license

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but once they loosened those

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requirements meaning you got the license

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and you really had to do something

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pretty seriously bad to lose that

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license yeah then they would go and turn

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the news into profit-making enterprises

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you notice distinctively that news

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divisions are often part of the

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entertainment division and by the way

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that's true at Fox it's part of the

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entertainment division which includes

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the Fox broadcast network like the

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x-files and shows like that and like

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Gotham or the movies from 20th Century

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Fox the same exact division is handling

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news now even if people go into that

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with sincere intentions if management

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wants to see profits they want to see

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ratings and if you're not getting the

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ratings you will change things to get

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hi this is Joshua p1 author of the poor

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power cast we have some questions from

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listeners we'll get into in a moment but

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I wanted to jump to another subject

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because Chris and I were talking about

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this in our premium podcast after the

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power cast back I guess in the 60s you

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have the stories about subliminal

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advertising where like every few frames

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you'd stick in there something that

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maybe in a movie theater get you to want

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popcorn or diet coke or something why is

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how they if they still have the frame by

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frame or if it's digital or what yeah

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well remember back in the 2004 election

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the Republican National Committee I

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believe or some PAC was caught doing an

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attack ad against the Democrats and they

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would leave the r8e

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and the word Democrats on for a fraction

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01:22:17,590 --> 01:22:15,800
of a second longer and somebody somebody

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spotted it slowed it down this is all

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digital they were caught red-handed

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subliminally putting the word rat into

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their diatribe against the Democratic

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Party and I'm sure the Democrats if they

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could figure out a way to do it they've

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probably done it technology has made it

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01:22:38,260 --> 01:22:36,440
more interesting yeah obviously this

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worked before it's still gonna work now

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01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:40,670
and I think that a lot of product

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01:22:45,370 --> 01:22:43,610
placement symbolism that kind of

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01:22:46,930 --> 01:22:45,380
manipulation occurs as well I mean you

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can't watch a TV show or a movie

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01:22:53,020 --> 01:22:50,120
nowadays with that without seeing in a

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some brand of cracker on the cabinet or

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the counter in the back the product

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placement is ridiculous that's a whole

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industry now the good guys will use

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necessarily subliminal but it's done

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kind of in a way that you're really not

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supposed to notice it but I noticed well

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I should frame my film school teacher

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and a lot of trouble so I actually

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studied all this type of which was not

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offered at my college I kind of created

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an independent study course with the

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actually the head of the department as

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my advisor and and end of into two

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techniques that the media and the

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government uses to subliminally

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manipulate behavior and or a condition

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or modify or in some ways steer behavior

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you know subliminals in in audio

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backwards masking there are techniques

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that are very effective that

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occasionally you'll hear people like the

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was that the PR MMAC

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tipper gore talking about playing

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Zeppelin records backwards even though a

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lot of that was not very well researched

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and and not really well founded the

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techniques are real and the the

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possibility of actually affecting

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behavior is very real yeah absolutely

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and I just think it's probably getting

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more sophisticated at the same rate that

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our technology is so it's probably

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harder to detect unless you're really

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really looking for it billboard on

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eighth Avenue in New York about three or

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four years ago that as you walked by a

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certain stretch of sidewalk an

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advertisement for a billboard in front

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of you sounded in your head yeah do you

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remember that oh you know somebody told

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me that it was that Paranormal State is

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that the one

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because I know that remember the TV show

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you think yeah yeah there was a show

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that did cover it but did the

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advertising ok this was told to me by

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another radio show host a few months ago

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that paranormal state when the show was

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still on had some kind of campaign where

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you would walk by one of those bus bench

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waiting what he called cubicles you know

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where they wait for the bus and their

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social advertising and that people were

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here

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in their head watch you know whatever at

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9:00 p.m. tonight and they're like what

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because it wasn't being broadcast late

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01:25:29,150 --> 01:25:26,760
to the entire public and it later found

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01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:29,160
out that I don't know put the show on

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A&E or one of those networks that they

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01:25:38,750 --> 01:25:36,090
were using that type of technology to

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literally just get the message out to

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whoever happened to be walking by it

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just the right spot at the right time

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right I never heard that before that

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blew me away well the technology and

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this is something that you don't read

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about you don't hear about very much but

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according to my research science has

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been able to pretty much map and predict

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very accurately human behavioral and

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01:26:06,500 --> 01:26:03,420
emotional response based on frequency of

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microwaves amplitude you know the the

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the actual numbers of cycles that are

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there a bit being employed and they've

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been able to map an entire and you you

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01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:16,050
do mention this in the book they've been

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able to accurately predict the human

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response to specific frequencies and you

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01:26:26,660 --> 01:26:25,020
know there's the conspiracy buffs of

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01:26:28,340 --> 01:26:26,670
course have been going going to town

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over the past ten years about the ground

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warning emergency network the Gwen

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towers that are going up all over the

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country kind of hidden with cell towers

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that all this is being staged as a mass

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behavioral modification program by the

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government

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you didn't mention Gwen we mentioned

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01:26:59,840 --> 01:26:49,340
HAARP once or twice you know you did but

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a very strict about this book too but we

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01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:01,920
did talk about voice to skull v2k

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technology which uses the microwave

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spectrum to literally beam pulses or

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tones or even voice them phrases into

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somebody's brain and it's done remotely

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you know via remote location which

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01:27:21,290 --> 01:27:18,810
shocked me is that the fact that there

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are corporations now using it for

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01:27:27,630 --> 01:27:24,420
advertising that's creepy it's hard

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01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:27,640
enough to know that since the 1960s

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but he could pulse words into my head

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01:27:34,980 --> 01:27:32,710
from a remote location thing I worry

1949
01:27:38,070 --> 01:27:34,990
about here then is you know we're filled

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with electronic super round us we are

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01:27:43,110 --> 01:27:40,360
Wi-Fi networks we've got with cellular

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01:27:45,420 --> 01:27:43,120
networks we've got Bluetooth we got all

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01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:45,430
this nonsense going on and we're being

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01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:48,250
fed or force-fed all these signals and

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01:27:53,610 --> 01:27:50,890
you have to think they might be across

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01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:53,620
purposes to one another so what happens

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01:27:56,490 --> 01:27:55,090
to the individual do you just go

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01:27:59,640 --> 01:27:56,500
completely crazy if you get

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01:28:04,880 --> 01:27:59,650
contradictory signals one you know I've

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01:28:08,430 --> 01:28:04,890
read a lot about the uptick in a lot of

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01:28:12,230 --> 01:28:08,440
brain diseases Alzheimer's

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01:28:16,190 --> 01:28:12,240
you know autoimmune diseases autism and

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01:28:20,700 --> 01:28:16,200
this constant bombardment with

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01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:20,710
electronics EMF who knows microwaves

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01:28:23,910 --> 01:28:22,690
some people say chemicals and chemtrails

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01:28:26,490 --> 01:28:23,920
what-have-you

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that may be the reason and cancer rates

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01:28:30,540 --> 01:28:28,780
skyrocketing breast cancer is expected

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01:28:33,270 --> 01:28:30,550
to I think they should double in the

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01:28:35,460 --> 01:28:33,280
next 20 years so you have to wonder if

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01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:35,470
all this is is not just making people

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crazy because it's jumbling up our

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01:28:43,710 --> 01:28:41,500
brains but hurting our physiology as

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well you know I would like to talk with

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you in our next segment a little bit

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01:28:49,890 --> 01:28:47,320
more about the impact of getting all

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01:28:53,100 --> 01:28:49,900
these radio waves all this mind control

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01:28:55,380 --> 01:28:53,110
to what degree can we control somebody's

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01:28:58,230 --> 01:28:55,390
mind and here's the question I'll pose

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and we can discuss it on the other side

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01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:00,220
of this segment and by the way we'll get

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01:29:04,530 --> 01:29:01,930
to your listener questions at that time

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01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:04,540
too and that is here we have people who

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claim that they have been abducted by

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01:29:13,140 --> 01:29:10,960
people flying around in UFOs what degree

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01:29:16,050 --> 01:29:13,150
can an experience like that be

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01:29:18,390 --> 01:29:16,060
manufactured by people who really want

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01:29:21,900 --> 01:29:18,400
to play games with us and even further

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01:29:24,420 --> 01:29:21,910
how many possible UFO experiences aren't

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01:29:27,690 --> 01:29:24,430
efforts at some sort of mind-control

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01:29:31,170 --> 01:29:27,700
some sort of manipulation designed to

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make us believe we've been they've been

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01:29:36,690 --> 01:29:35,050
fortunate enough to see 80 or something

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01:29:38,610 --> 01:29:36,700
of that nature we'll get into that in

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the next segment let me tell you we have

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a second radio show we'd like you to

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hear

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it's called after the power cast that's

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a mixture of chatter it's kind of like a

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summing up of an episode we have special

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O'Brien in addition to after the para

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Wars and we're not sending anything out

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there no subliminal messages berries

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Paul Dean and Chris you're in the beer

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segment is it possible that experiences

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of UFO abductions may in part be the

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result of some kind of mind-control

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that caused hallucinations and I think

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doing is deprogramming what you believe

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01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:04,300
in who you are and reprogramming you

2149
01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:05,890
with what they want you to believe in

2150
01:36:10,290 --> 01:36:08,410
what they want you to be and so that's

2151
01:36:13,140 --> 01:36:10,300
the case that means that you can

2152
01:36:15,480 --> 01:36:13,150
literally have your brain reprogrammed

2153
01:36:18,570 --> 01:36:15,490
to see certain things hear things

2154
01:36:21,870 --> 01:36:18,580
believe things have literal

2155
01:36:24,810 --> 01:36:21,880
physiological experiences so we did find

2156
01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:24,820
a little bit of a MKULTRA connection

2157
01:36:30,360 --> 01:36:27,370
with UFOs thanks to my pal Nick Redfern

2158
01:36:32,700 --> 01:36:30,370
who I just think is you know the the

2159
01:36:33,820 --> 01:36:32,710
bee's knees when it comes to the subject

2160
01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:33,830
matter of UFO

2161
01:36:40,750 --> 01:36:37,930
and apparently there were allegedly some

2162
01:36:44,170 --> 01:36:40,760
experimentations that were done I think

2163
01:36:47,590 --> 01:36:44,180
in the in the 1950s and they involved

2164
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:47,600
the deliberate fabrication of UFO

2165
01:36:54,670 --> 01:36:50,170
sightings and abductions and UFO

2166
01:36:59,070 --> 01:36:54,680
experiences and what was suggested is

2167
01:37:03,310 --> 01:36:59,080
that people's minds were programmed with

2168
01:37:05,700 --> 01:37:03,320
visual images and you know physiological

2169
01:37:09,280 --> 01:37:05,710
sensations that resulted from those

2170
01:37:11,070 --> 01:37:09,290
visual images to believe that they were

2171
01:37:14,230 --> 01:37:11,080
having a real encounter with

2172
01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:14,240
extraterrestrials and could this apply

2173
01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:17,930
to some of the earlier UFO waves and

2174
01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:19,610
abduction scenarios that we've heard

2175
01:37:24,670 --> 01:37:22,130
about such as Betty and Barney Hill the

2176
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:24,680
incident in Exeter New Hampshire and one

2177
01:37:28,390 --> 01:37:25,850
of the other interesting things that

2178
01:37:31,330 --> 01:37:28,400
Nick told me about was that John fuller

2179
01:37:34,870 --> 01:37:31,340
who wrote one of my favorite UFO books

2180
01:37:37,570 --> 01:37:34,880
now I'm really questioning whether it

2181
01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:37,580
was true or not incident at Exeter that

2182
01:37:44,140 --> 01:37:39,770
he had encounter links that he actually

2183
01:37:46,780 --> 01:37:44,150
was linked to the program and may have

2184
01:37:49,150 --> 01:37:46,790
even been involved in setting up some of

2185
01:37:52,930 --> 01:37:49,160
these scenarios and also possibly could

2186
01:37:56,890 --> 01:37:52,940
have been involved in the death of one

2187
01:37:59,620 --> 01:37:56,900
of the few people that died as a result

2188
01:38:02,590 --> 01:37:59,630
of sort of whistleblowing about MKULTRA

2189
01:38:04,120 --> 01:38:02,600
Frank Olson so there's very little like

2190
01:38:06,700 --> 01:38:04,130
I you know it's kind of picking next

2191
01:38:09,550 --> 01:38:06,710
brain and he could come up with just a

2192
01:38:12,190 --> 01:38:09,560
few suggestions and a few allegations a

2193
01:38:15,310 --> 01:38:12,200
few connections with them k ultra but if

2194
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:15,320
you think about it we still to this day

2195
01:38:20,590 --> 01:38:18,530
have no UFO disclosure ok now whether

2196
01:38:23,200 --> 01:38:20,600
it's trickling down which has always

2197
01:38:25,300 --> 01:38:23,210
kind of been my belief that you know

2198
01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:25,310
nobody's gonna President Obama's not

2199
01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:28,250
gonna show up tomorrow morning on the

2200
01:38:31,780 --> 01:38:30,410
news and say hey guess what it's about

2201
01:38:33,280 --> 01:38:31,790
time we tell you what's going on here

2202
01:38:35,680 --> 01:38:33,290
because you know what nobody would

2203
01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:35,690
believe them anyway so if we are having

2204
01:38:41,230 --> 01:38:37,850
disclosure I feel like it would be

2205
01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:41,240
trickling down as it has been just like

2206
01:38:45,109 --> 01:38:43,130
trickle-down economics we now have

2207
01:38:47,899 --> 01:38:45,119
trickling down disclosure

2208
01:38:50,089 --> 01:38:47,909
yeah well it's incremental you know you

2209
01:38:51,830 --> 01:38:50,099
see a lot of stuff yeah a lot of people

2210
01:38:54,350 --> 01:38:51,840
think that the media is involved Steven

2211
01:38:57,379 --> 01:38:54,360
Spielberg has been named that we have a

2212
01:38:59,479 --> 01:38:57,389
gradual sort of incremental disclosure

2213
01:39:03,350 --> 01:38:59,489
process going on which which kind of

2214
01:39:05,990 --> 01:39:03,360
makes sense the public is mature enough

2215
01:39:08,660 --> 01:39:06,000
to handle and in-your-face declaration

2216
01:39:11,060 --> 01:39:08,670
of disclosure I'm sorry I just don't

2217
01:39:12,830 --> 01:39:11,070
think that we can do it some of us I'd

2218
01:39:16,669 --> 01:39:12,840
be fine with it I'm sure you guys would

2219
01:39:19,459 --> 01:39:16,679
but you know if Obama showed up at the

2220
01:39:21,680 --> 01:39:19,469
White House press room with a hand in

2221
01:39:22,910 --> 01:39:21,690
hand with a little alien the only thing

2222
01:39:24,410 --> 01:39:22,920
that would really happen other than

2223
01:39:27,879 --> 01:39:24,420
people like scratching their heads grin

2224
01:39:31,370 --> 01:39:27,889
huh is that the you know the the border

2225
01:39:33,919 --> 01:39:31,380
fence would go up and we'd have illegal

2226
01:39:36,100 --> 01:39:33,929
immigrant legislation passed really

2227
01:39:44,570 --> 01:39:38,899
I hate to tell you what Fox News would

2228
01:39:47,180 --> 01:39:44,580
say about this you know CGI special

2229
01:39:49,669 --> 01:39:47,190
effects or the pictures on the internet

2230
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:49,679
or Photoshop it's not true it's

2231
01:39:55,189 --> 01:39:52,010
misinformation it's disinformation

2232
01:39:57,350 --> 01:39:55,199
propaganda what's Obama up to is this

2233
01:40:00,979 --> 01:39:57,360
gonna help he'll I mean I don't think

2234
01:40:03,410 --> 01:40:00,989
people would openly accept real

2235
01:40:05,780 --> 01:40:03,420
disclosure because I don't think we have

2236
01:40:10,910 --> 01:40:05,790
the capacity as a populace to do that

2237
01:40:13,160 --> 01:40:10,920
without total anarchy right we'd go nuts

2238
01:40:16,399 --> 01:40:13,170
well there's a Project Blue Beam do you

2239
01:40:18,649 --> 01:40:16,409
remember Serge mone a stand and the the

2240
01:40:21,320 --> 01:40:18,659
wild story that he came out with that we

2241
01:40:24,830 --> 01:40:21,330
had the technology to do a global

2242
01:40:27,379 --> 01:40:24,840
hologram in the sky and have the voice

2243
01:40:29,419 --> 01:40:27,389
of Mohammed or Jesus beamed into

2244
01:40:33,339 --> 01:40:29,429
everyone's heads personalized with their

2245
01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:33,349
name did you do any work

2246
01:40:37,700 --> 01:40:36,810
yeah Project Blue Beam yeah it's there's

2247
01:40:39,979 --> 01:40:37,710
quite a bit of stuff on the internet

2248
01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:39,989
about it and I actually spoke with Serge

2249
01:40:45,050 --> 01:40:41,730
Minh asked on a number of occasions and

2250
01:40:47,479 --> 01:40:45,060
then he plane he just vanished

2251
01:40:50,540 --> 01:40:47,489
yeah he was never heard of from again

2252
01:40:52,760 --> 01:40:50,550
and and he was a real guy I talked to

2253
01:40:56,060 --> 01:40:52,770
him myself and he was very very nervous

2254
01:40:57,470 --> 01:40:56,070
about his own personal safety and anyway

2255
01:40:57,950 --> 01:40:57,480
just something I also have another

2256
01:41:02,030 --> 01:40:57,960
friend

2257
01:41:02,479 --> 01:41:02,040
worked in acoustic psyops in Desert

2258
01:41:05,060 --> 01:41:02,489
Storm

2259
01:41:07,610 --> 01:41:05,070
and he's he he wasn't able to really

2260
01:41:10,010 --> 01:41:07,620
tell me what they did but but you know

2261
01:41:11,450 --> 01:41:10,020
when I asked him can we beam words into

2262
01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:11,460
people's heads he goes remember when

2263
01:41:15,350 --> 01:41:14,010
when you saw the news footage of all the

2264
01:41:17,030 --> 01:41:15,360
soldiers standing there and all the

2265
01:41:20,030 --> 01:41:17,040
Iraqis were coming up and kissing their

2266
01:41:28,940 --> 01:41:20,040
feet he said that that wasn't they they

2267
01:41:32,810 --> 01:41:28,950
were not doing that by accident -

2268
01:41:35,300 --> 01:41:32,820
printed it out but it was about it was

2269
01:41:37,280 --> 01:41:35,310
some allegation on a conspiracy site

2270
01:41:40,280 --> 01:41:37,290
that some of the UFO sightings were

2271
01:41:43,340 --> 01:41:40,290
being beamed holographically now here's

2272
01:41:46,160 --> 01:41:43,350
the thing even if this MKULTRA

2273
01:41:49,160 --> 01:41:46,170
connection is true it doesn't mean that

2274
01:41:52,100 --> 01:41:49,170
every single UFO sighting or experience

2275
01:41:54,709 --> 01:41:52,110
has been fabricated all it means is that

2276
01:41:58,580 --> 01:41:54,719
they realize that this was something

2277
01:42:01,250 --> 01:41:58,590
they could play off of manipulate to

2278
01:42:03,229 --> 01:42:01,260
their advantage that they actually did

2279
01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:03,239
study it and try to put it into action

2280
01:42:09,050 --> 01:42:06,810
it doesn't discount the UFO phenomenon

2281
01:42:11,959 --> 01:42:09,060
well it's also a good honey trap and

2282
01:42:13,970 --> 01:42:11,969
counterespionage duda to attract foreign

2283
01:42:15,890 --> 01:42:13,980
powers that are possibly spying on us

2284
01:42:17,930 --> 01:42:15,900
it's a good way to trap them you know we

2285
01:42:21,920 --> 01:42:17,940
had Walter Bosley on who was an ex-fbi

2286
01:42:25,190 --> 01:42:21,930
agent X Air Force Office office of

2287
01:42:27,729 --> 01:42:25,200
intelligence and he he talked about the

2288
01:42:30,260 --> 01:42:27,739
real fear among the military that

2289
01:42:31,880 --> 01:42:30,270
certain black projects were going to be

2290
01:42:33,170 --> 01:42:31,890
compromised so this is so that they

2291
01:42:35,330 --> 01:42:33,180
would create these honey traps in the

2292
01:42:38,630 --> 01:42:35,340
UFO community to try to out some of

2293
01:42:42,590 --> 01:42:38,640
these these agents yeah I think the

2294
01:42:44,750 --> 01:42:42,600
biggest problems is everybody's got an

2295
01:42:48,290 --> 01:42:44,760
idea of what might be happening and

2296
01:42:50,780 --> 01:42:48,300
nobody really seems to know but I just

2297
01:42:53,350 --> 01:42:50,790
think the sheer volume going you know

2298
01:42:56,690 --> 01:42:53,360
back to the 1940s and beyond of

2299
01:42:57,500 --> 01:42:56,700
sightings yeah I think probably the

2300
01:42:59,660 --> 01:42:57,510
MKULTRA

2301
01:43:02,240 --> 01:42:59,670
people that were involved saw that this

2302
01:43:04,459 --> 01:43:02,250
was something that they could ride on

2303
01:43:06,620 --> 01:43:04,469
the coattails ever take advantage of and

2304
01:43:10,189 --> 01:43:06,630
I certainly think the technology exists

2305
01:43:12,770 --> 01:43:10,199
today to easily fabricate UFO sightings

2306
01:43:15,020 --> 01:43:12,780
this guy but I don't think that it means

2307
01:43:16,549 --> 01:43:15,030
that everything is fabricated well you

2308
01:43:19,250 --> 01:43:16,559
know of course there have been theories

2309
01:43:22,549 --> 01:43:19,260
there have been theories Murray maybe

2310
01:43:25,069 --> 01:43:22,559
the ghost rockets back in the 1940s were

2311
01:43:27,229 --> 01:43:25,079
all a put up job there James carry on a

2312
01:43:29,479 --> 01:43:27,239
former head of MUFON has that book out

2313
01:43:31,640 --> 01:43:29,489
called the Rosetta deception and he's

2314
01:43:33,799 --> 01:43:31,650
got a Roswell deception coming up I

2315
01:43:36,379 --> 01:43:33,809
guess to suggest that maybe the initial

2316
01:43:38,299 --> 01:43:36,389
stories yeah that Roswell was a flying

2317
01:43:40,580 --> 01:43:38,309
saucer then changing that oh it was just

2318
01:43:52,600 --> 01:43:40,590
a balloon but the initial stories are

2319
01:43:58,699 --> 01:43:56,000
next question by the way what we're

2320
01:44:00,350 --> 01:43:58,709
doing now is calling the Roswell

2321
01:44:07,009 --> 01:44:00,360
incident the case that shall not be

2322
01:44:08,629 --> 01:44:07,019
named because we're so sick of it people

2323
01:44:10,939 --> 01:44:08,639
that just say there's no such thing as

2324
01:44:13,489 --> 01:44:10,949
conspiracy it's all just you know no

2325
01:44:16,009 --> 01:44:13,499
there are and they happen all the time

2326
01:44:18,439 --> 01:44:16,019
and it means nothing more than people

2327
01:44:22,189 --> 01:44:18,449
conspiring to keep the truth from

2328
01:44:24,199 --> 01:44:22,199
another group of people namely us and

2329
01:44:26,479 --> 01:44:24,209
that smart becomes so hard because we

2330
01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:26,489
could sit here all day and and Vaali

2331
01:44:31,040 --> 01:44:29,010
theories back and forth and the bottom

2332
01:44:33,830 --> 01:44:31,050
line is we don't know because we weren't

2333
01:44:37,279 --> 01:44:33,840
there to see what really was going on

2334
01:44:39,290 --> 01:44:37,289
it's very frustrating as a writer should

2335
01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:39,300
not be there and say be able to stay

2336
01:44:44,089 --> 01:44:41,489
with under percent certainty the

2337
01:44:46,580 --> 01:44:44,099
incident at Exeter was not fabricated it

2338
01:44:48,910 --> 01:44:46,590
was real that makes the whole thing so

2339
01:44:51,109 --> 01:44:48,920
difficult to handle the fact that

2340
01:44:54,589 --> 01:44:51,119
there's always a possibility of

2341
01:44:56,989 --> 01:44:54,599
mind-control disinformation deception in

2342
01:44:59,089 --> 01:44:56,999
a lot of these cases and therefore if

2343
01:45:01,250 --> 01:44:59,099
you tried to find the truth separate the

2344
01:45:02,839 --> 01:45:01,260
truth from the fiction how do you do it

2345
01:45:05,449 --> 01:45:02,849
when you've got all this stuff going on

2346
01:45:08,270 --> 01:45:05,459
in plain sight with the book is mind

2347
01:45:11,299 --> 01:45:08,280
wars with Marie Jones and Larry Flaxman

2348
01:45:14,100 --> 01:45:11,309
doing the writing chores subtitles who's

2349
01:45:20,210 --> 01:45:14,110
been watching you from

2350
01:45:27,770 --> 01:45:20,220
shadows with Jeana and Chris you're in

2351
01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:29,910
independently leading the way for the

2352
01:45:34,410 --> 01:45:32,770
nation's compelling talk for every

2353
01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:34,420
political persuasion

2354
01:45:40,919 --> 01:45:38,770
we are G C and attack of the rock AIDS

2355
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has been well received by critics and

2356
01:45:45,780 --> 01:45:42,670
readers alike it's a thrill a minute

2357
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story you'll never forget a former US

2358
01:45:50,250 --> 01:45:48,159
military intelligence officer is haunted

2359
01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:50,260
by intense dreams about a beautiful

2360
01:45:55,709 --> 01:45:52,570
woman pleading for his help after a

2361
01:45:57,810 --> 01:45:55,719
terrible battle in outer space but the

2362
01:45:59,669 --> 01:45:57,820
dreams turn out to be true and thrust

2363
01:46:02,760 --> 01:45:59,679
him into a telepathic love affair with a

2364
01:46:05,100 --> 01:46:02,770
woman whose faraway planet is intent on

2365
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destroying the earth and now the

2366
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gripping tale continues in the coming of

2367
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the protectors it's the second book of

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the rockets trilogy a galaxy spanning

2369
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adventure that pits our hapless heroes

2370
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against powerful fanatical enemies that

2371
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threaten the lives of freedom loving

2372
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beings everywhere attack of the rockets

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and the coming of the protectors classic

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of watching your hard-earned assets to

2379
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end aloy as government spending is out

2380
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of hand and the Federal Reserve is

2381
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creating in excess of 20 billion a week

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away your hard-earned money is this

2384
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2385
01:47:00,060 --> 01:46:58,510
1987 too many of today's policies

2386
01:47:03,990 --> 01:47:00,070
resemble those that led to the collapse

2387
01:47:06,840 --> 01:47:04,000
of 1929 this is John Hamner and that was

2388
01:47:08,790 --> 01:47:06,850
me in 2007 and we all know what happened

2389
01:47:11,550 --> 01:47:08,800
when the subprime credit bubble burst by

2390
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March 2009 the dollar lost 50% of its

2391
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value the entire US banking system was

2392
01:47:17,220 --> 01:47:15,520
on the verge of collapsing like all

2393
01:47:18,750 --> 01:47:17,230
financial problems of the past is

2394
01:47:22,260 --> 01:47:18,760
history about to repeat itself

2395
01:47:25,050 --> 01:47:22,270
call me John Hamner at 1-866-37

2396
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2397
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protect yourself

2398
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will the

2399
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IRAs 401 k's with it there is a way to

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protect your hard-earned assets call me

2402
01:47:45,380 --> 01:47:37,780
John humor at 1-866-37 extension one to

2403
01:47:53,420 --> 01:47:49,110
welcome back to the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio and now

2405
01:48:04,170 --> 01:48:02,110
here's Jane Steinberg I think everyone

2406
01:48:05,100 --> 01:48:04,180
thinks that Chris and I are under severe

2407
01:48:06,840 --> 01:48:05,110
mind-control

2408
01:48:08,340 --> 01:48:06,850
we're under severe something we haven't

2409
01:48:10,890 --> 01:48:08,350
figured out what that is yet we have

2410
01:48:12,840 --> 01:48:10,900
Marie Jones joining us trying to assess

2411
01:48:15,120 --> 01:48:12,850
the situation Chris we have some

2412
01:48:16,890 --> 01:48:15,130
questions from listeners and be nice to

2413
01:48:18,360 --> 01:48:16,900
get to some in the final third of the

2414
01:48:21,450 --> 01:48:18,370
show do you have something to bring up

2415
01:48:26,370 --> 01:48:21,460
yeah we do in this first question Marie

2416
01:48:28,950 --> 01:48:26,380
comes up from legend tripper who has

2417
01:48:31,170 --> 01:48:28,960
been assigned for about a year that

2418
01:48:34,110 --> 01:48:31,180
forum dr. Perik asked calm where you can

2419
01:48:36,810 --> 01:48:34,120
sign up become a foreign form member and

2420
01:48:39,570 --> 01:48:36,820
ask questions of our guests and he's

2421
01:48:42,060 --> 01:48:39,580
wondering if you have any insight into

2422
01:48:44,850 --> 01:48:42,070
the phenomenon known as the Taos hum

2423
01:48:47,990 --> 01:48:44,860
where folks were convinced that they

2424
01:48:51,840 --> 01:48:48,000
were being bombarded by e.l.f or VLF

2425
01:48:55,410 --> 01:48:51,850
very very low frequency sonic waves now

2426
01:48:58,260 --> 01:48:55,420
a little caveat here I investigated this

2427
01:48:59,160 --> 01:48:58,270
particular phenomenon and actually heard

2428
01:49:03,330 --> 01:48:59,170
it myself

2429
01:49:05,610 --> 01:49:03,340
on several occasions so I think what 20%

2430
01:49:07,440 --> 01:49:05,620
of the population they did a survey I

2431
01:49:10,590 --> 01:49:07,450
think Los Alamos did a survey and about

2432
01:49:13,050 --> 01:49:10,600
20 22 % of the population was able to

2433
01:49:16,170 --> 01:49:13,060
hear these extremely low-frequency a

2434
01:49:18,150 --> 01:49:16,180
humming sound or throbbing sound what do

2435
01:49:21,980 --> 01:49:18,160
you think was the sinister something

2436
01:49:25,020 --> 01:49:21,990
natural what is your resource tell you I

2437
01:49:27,540 --> 01:49:25,030
am the daughter of a geophysicist so let

2438
01:49:30,930 --> 01:49:27,550
me tell you that the earth makes a lot

2439
01:49:33,390 --> 01:49:30,940
of noise and we humans are not really

2440
01:49:35,370 --> 01:49:33,400
built to hear it and we only hear you

2441
01:49:38,430 --> 01:49:35,380
know a certain part of the spectrum that

2442
01:49:41,550 --> 01:49:38,440
the animals obviously hear more than we

2443
01:49:44,370 --> 01:49:41,560
do they can air higher ultra sound they

2444
01:49:45,960 --> 01:49:44,380
can also respond to infrasound and so I

2445
01:49:47,370 --> 01:49:45,970
don't know I haven't researched it but I

2446
01:49:50,030 --> 01:49:47,380
would say that there are one of two

2447
01:49:53,160 --> 01:49:50,040
things going on either it's an entirely

2448
01:49:55,140 --> 01:49:53,170
environmental situation that is being

2449
01:49:57,240 --> 01:49:55,150
picked up on by people who are sensitive

2450
01:49:57,799 --> 01:49:57,250
to certain frequencies that not you know

2451
01:49:59,700 --> 01:49:57,809
the general

2452
01:50:03,509 --> 01:49:59,710
population ISM could be something

2453
01:50:06,060 --> 01:50:03,519
seismic or there's some sinister

2454
01:50:07,620 --> 01:50:06,070
underground base there that is up to no

2455
01:50:09,479 --> 01:50:07,630
good but I would think that with the

2456
01:50:11,729 --> 01:50:09,489
ladder somebody would have found

2457
01:50:13,470 --> 01:50:11,739
evidence of that by now so you hear

2458
01:50:14,819 --> 01:50:13,480
about all these strange sounds all over

2459
01:50:16,470 --> 01:50:14,829
the world that people are hearing and

2460
01:50:19,339 --> 01:50:16,480
what people need to realize is that

2461
01:50:25,319 --> 01:50:19,349
there are sounds that the earth makes

2462
01:50:27,540 --> 01:50:25,329
when it comes into interaction with the

2463
01:50:30,540 --> 01:50:27,550
atmosphere there are atmospheric sounds

2464
01:50:32,220 --> 01:50:30,550
not everybody's gonna hear them but it

2465
01:50:34,259 --> 01:50:32,230
could be the same thing that animals

2466
01:50:35,850 --> 01:50:34,269
here before an earthquake occurs and

2467
01:50:38,609 --> 01:50:35,860
I've had to proof of that because I've

2468
01:50:42,419 --> 01:50:38,619
lived through I lived in LA for years

2469
01:50:44,609 --> 01:50:42,429
and my cat's always the night and day

2470
01:50:47,209 --> 01:50:44,619
before an earthquake would behave very

2471
01:50:51,089 --> 01:50:47,219
differently they were responding to

2472
01:50:53,339 --> 01:50:51,099
sound waves that I could not pick up on

2473
01:50:55,979 --> 01:50:53,349
it must be mentioned that Taos it's on

2474
01:50:59,729 --> 01:50:55,989
the second largest earthquake fault in

2475
01:51:02,129 --> 01:50:59,739
the world I think the Rio Grande Rift

2476
01:51:05,100 --> 01:51:02,139
Valley extends from the Gulf of Mexico

2477
01:51:08,279 --> 01:51:05,110
we have to let Vail Colorado but there

2478
01:51:10,049 --> 01:51:08,289
is also a tantalizing bit of

2479
01:51:13,109 --> 01:51:10,059
circumstantial evidence that we have a

2480
01:51:15,479 --> 01:51:13,119
secret communications facility that as

2481
01:51:17,850 --> 01:51:15,489
you mentioned is underground that is

2482
01:51:22,049 --> 01:51:17,860
used to communicate to submerged

2483
01:51:25,020 --> 01:51:22,059
submarines with VLF and e.l.f low

2484
01:51:29,939 --> 01:51:25,030
frequency communication signal sent on

2485
01:51:33,600 --> 01:51:29,949
you know low frequency bandwidth radio

2486
01:51:36,149 --> 01:51:33,610
operator and I used to live at the top

2487
01:51:39,689 --> 01:51:36,159
of the hill and when I did and not only

2488
01:51:42,779 --> 01:51:39,699
did I get incredible coverage but I

2489
01:51:45,029 --> 01:51:42,789
would often and and Larry just thought

2490
01:51:48,899 --> 01:51:45,039
this was hilarious but I would hear

2491
01:51:51,060 --> 01:51:48,909
voices in my head and I'm not mentally

2492
01:51:53,549 --> 01:51:51,070
ill and at the time I thought oh I

2493
01:51:56,370 --> 01:51:53,559
wonder if I'm experiencing this v2k this

2494
01:51:57,959 --> 01:51:56,380
voice does call technology but what you

2495
01:52:00,689 --> 01:51:57,969
know in further research what I found

2496
01:52:05,220 --> 01:52:00,699
was that there are people who have the

2497
01:52:07,020 --> 01:52:05,230
capacity to pick up on stuff that's in

2498
01:52:08,520 --> 01:52:07,030
the airwaves it's being broadcast on

2499
01:52:10,710 --> 01:52:08,530
certain frequencies and I might have

2500
01:52:14,480 --> 01:52:10,720
been getting a little you know

2501
01:52:17,280 --> 01:52:14,490
my brain was a senior radio it stopped

2502
01:52:20,190 --> 01:52:17,290
when I moved out I'm now down at the

2503
01:52:25,500 --> 01:52:20,200
bottom of a valley where I get nothing I

2504
01:52:27,510 --> 01:52:25,510
mean my ham radio reminds me in sixth

2505
01:52:28,830 --> 01:52:27,520
grade a kid claimed when he got braces

2506
01:52:30,330 --> 01:52:28,840
that he was hearing a radio station

2507
01:52:39,440 --> 01:52:30,340
coming through his braces and it was

2508
01:52:44,640 --> 01:52:39,450
driving him nuts picking up on the

2509
01:52:47,550 --> 01:52:44,650
hurricane broadcast those are common

2510
01:52:52,290 --> 01:52:47,560
sense you know non paranormal

2511
01:52:53,940 --> 01:52:52,300
explanations that make sense we have

2512
01:52:56,820 --> 01:52:53,950
another question here this one comes

2513
01:52:59,070 --> 01:52:56,830
from technomage and he's wondering what

2514
01:53:01,950 --> 01:52:59,080
are the best documented cases of

2515
01:53:04,890 --> 01:53:01,960
Manchurian candidates now I'm not sure

2516
01:53:06,600 --> 01:53:04,900
if we should use the word documented

2517
01:53:09,270 --> 01:53:06,610
here because these types of cases are

2518
01:53:11,790 --> 01:53:09,280
very difficult to document but do we

2519
01:53:13,080 --> 01:53:11,800
have any clear-cut cases of Manchurian

2520
01:53:17,250 --> 01:53:13,090
type candidates that have been

2521
01:53:20,610 --> 01:53:17,260
programmed to let's say exercise

2522
01:53:25,650 --> 01:53:20,620
somebody else's will well no I mean we

2523
01:53:28,200 --> 01:53:25,660
have allegations and we have the

2524
01:53:30,360 --> 01:53:28,210
encounter documents that show how it was

2525
01:53:32,490 --> 01:53:30,370
done because those are really the whole

2526
01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:32,500
purpose of MKULTRA this is really

2527
01:53:37,380 --> 01:53:34,810
interesting actually have a little bit

2528
01:53:38,850 --> 01:53:37,390
of a positive edge to it even though I'm

2529
01:53:42,020 --> 01:53:38,860
not sure I would I would consider it

2530
01:53:44,640 --> 01:53:42,030
positive but the whole reason for

2531
01:53:47,700 --> 01:53:44,650
getting a McHale to rolling along was

2532
01:53:51,180 --> 01:53:47,710
because our POWs had been brainwashed

2533
01:53:54,210 --> 01:53:51,190
during the Korean War and we want to

2534
01:53:56,640 --> 01:53:54,220
know not only how how to stop that or

2535
01:53:59,010 --> 01:53:56,650
how to prevent that but I think also

2536
01:54:00,930 --> 01:53:59,020
could we do that to the enemy you know

2537
01:54:03,210 --> 01:54:00,940
we needed to stay ahead of the game with

2538
01:54:04,740 --> 01:54:03,220
the techniques that were be using being

2539
01:54:07,380 --> 01:54:04,750
used on our soldiers not just in the

2540
01:54:09,030 --> 01:54:07,390
battlefield but the ones that were where

2541
01:54:11,880 --> 01:54:09,040
prisoners of war the ones that were

2542
01:54:15,960 --> 01:54:11,890
being tortured and abused what have you

2543
01:54:18,930 --> 01:54:15,970
that's how it started the only

2544
01:54:21,390 --> 01:54:18,940
documentation we have are the the

2545
01:54:23,610 --> 01:54:21,400
MKULTRA documents that did get

2546
01:54:24,149 --> 01:54:23,620
Declassified that were destroyed you

2547
01:54:26,489 --> 01:54:24,159
just

2548
01:54:29,580 --> 01:54:26,499
small percentage of them right talk

2549
01:54:31,169 --> 01:54:29,590
about the techniques but there have been

2550
01:54:35,549 --> 01:54:31,179
a number of people who have come forth

2551
01:54:37,830 --> 01:54:35,559
and written books they are we can't

2552
01:54:41,839 --> 01:54:37,840
prove what happened to them some of them

2553
01:54:44,549 --> 01:54:41,849
sound incredibly credible some of them

2554
01:54:46,560 --> 01:54:44,559
you know really they write with

2555
01:54:49,290 --> 01:54:46,570
incredible detail they're able to name

2556
01:54:52,439 --> 01:54:49,300
names and places and times that connect

2557
01:54:54,419 --> 01:54:52,449
with some of the documentation can I say

2558
01:54:57,299 --> 01:54:54,429
with a hundred percent certainty that

2559
01:54:58,679 --> 01:54:57,309
they were real mentoring candidates no

2560
01:55:04,140 --> 01:54:58,689
absolutely not

2561
01:55:08,339 --> 01:55:04,150
what covered that territory before but I

2562
01:55:11,399 --> 01:55:08,349
wanted to just see if there was any sort

2563
01:55:14,100 --> 01:55:11,409
of smoking gun evidence to support the

2564
01:55:17,009 --> 01:55:14,110
efficacy of this type of behavior

2565
01:55:18,479 --> 01:55:17,019
modification and I I kind of knew the

2566
01:55:21,029 --> 01:55:18,489
answer going in because we'd already

2567
01:55:23,339 --> 01:55:21,039
discussed it but here's one from silly

2568
01:55:24,810 --> 01:55:23,349
rabbit and this is a good one there have

2569
01:55:27,149 --> 01:55:24,820
been a number of individuals over the

2570
01:55:30,120 --> 01:55:27,159
past fifteen years or so that have

2571
01:55:32,909 --> 01:55:30,130
really been digging into the - the whole

2572
01:55:36,239 --> 01:55:32,919
occult symbolism angle Michel Therrien

2573
01:55:37,919 --> 01:55:36,249
is one who looks at corporate logos and

2574
01:55:40,770 --> 01:55:37,929
is able to identify the mark of the

2575
01:55:42,270 --> 01:55:40,780
beast and other occult type symbols how

2576
01:55:44,939 --> 01:55:42,280
do you respond to these theorists who

2577
01:55:47,819 --> 01:55:44,949
see a cults emblem symbolism often

2578
01:55:49,949 --> 01:55:47,829
related to luciferianism or the

2579
01:55:51,839 --> 01:55:49,959
Illuminati and predictive programming in

2580
01:55:53,600 --> 01:55:51,849
the media and everything from the music

2581
01:55:56,489 --> 01:55:53,610
industry the Super Bowl halftime show

2582
01:55:59,069 --> 01:55:56,499
children's television shows what do you

2583
01:56:01,290 --> 01:55:59,079
think of this this idea of occult

2584
01:56:03,929 --> 01:56:01,300
symbolism having some sort of subliminal

2585
01:56:08,580 --> 01:56:03,939
effect on the populace okay and I did

2586
01:56:10,589 --> 01:56:08,590
study this research and I have been very

2587
01:56:13,709 --> 01:56:10,599
close to some people who are very

2588
01:56:15,989 --> 01:56:13,719
immersed in this world I'll say my

2589
01:56:19,169 --> 01:56:15,999
opinion is that the truth is in the

2590
01:56:21,689 --> 01:56:19,179
middle I don't think every single you

2591
01:56:23,489 --> 01:56:21,699
know Beyonce doing some thing with her

2592
01:56:24,959 --> 01:56:23,499
hand means that she's a member I mean

2593
01:56:28,169 --> 01:56:24,969
come on that's ridiculous

2594
01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:28,179
why would they want Beyonce taylor swift

2595
01:56:32,310 --> 01:56:30,010
she's more powerful

2596
01:56:34,229 --> 01:56:32,320
I mean I'm joke about a little bit again

2597
01:56:37,420 --> 01:56:34,239
I think you have to stay in the middle

2598
01:56:40,780 --> 01:56:37,430
road to get to the truth

2599
01:56:43,350 --> 01:56:40,790
not everything is meant to be a symbol

2600
01:56:46,270 --> 01:56:43,360
of you know satanic ritual abuse or

2601
01:56:49,420 --> 01:56:46,280
occult associations but something

2602
01:56:51,310 --> 01:56:49,430
certainly could be I would also think

2603
01:56:54,040 --> 01:56:51,320
here that people might choose a logo for

2604
01:56:56,170 --> 01:56:54,050
a company because it looks good from our

2605
01:56:57,670 --> 01:56:56,180
artistic standpoint and they're not

2606
01:56:59,140 --> 01:56:57,680
sitting there and looking over the

2607
01:57:02,800 --> 01:56:59,150
consequences and saying well this

2608
01:57:05,860 --> 01:57:02,810
ancient symbol symbolizes demonology or

2609
01:57:07,930 --> 01:57:05,870
something or symbol and they don't

2610
01:57:10,090 --> 01:57:07,940
really think that through until somebody

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reminds them wait a minute did you see

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this did you see that what you want to

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Wars do you want to continue your

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so I want to be clear that I don't think

2730
02:02:26,110 --> 02:02:23,660
it all is a call symbolism that is done

2731
02:02:29,380 --> 02:02:26,120
intentionally but I also don't think

2732
02:02:31,360 --> 02:02:29,390
none of it is that's my answer I think

2733
02:02:32,800 --> 02:02:31,370
some of it very well could be but I

2734
02:02:36,130 --> 02:02:32,810
certainly don't think that every single

2735
02:02:38,080 --> 02:02:36,140
logo has some deeper meaning other than

2736
02:02:40,450 --> 02:02:38,090
this looks really good and the graphic

2737
02:02:42,430 --> 02:02:40,460
guy who came up with it you know gave it

2738
02:02:44,410 --> 02:02:42,440
to his cheap I think sometimes things

2739
02:02:47,020 --> 02:02:44,420
are exactly what they are on the surface

2740
02:02:48,970 --> 02:02:47,030
and other times not remember the Procter

2741
02:02:50,940 --> 02:02:48,980
& Gamble Yasko where they had the

2742
02:02:53,470 --> 02:02:50,950
quarter moon with the face and the

2743
02:02:54,940 --> 02:02:53,480
certain number of stars that were part

2744
02:02:57,060 --> 02:02:54,950
of their little logo that was on the

2745
02:02:59,440 --> 02:02:57,070
back of all their products and in some

2746
02:03:02,170 --> 02:02:59,450
Christians I think came up and said oh

2747
02:03:03,730 --> 02:03:02,180
that's the symbol of the devil and they

2748
02:03:08,380 --> 02:03:03,740
literally it was something they had had

2749
02:03:10,510 --> 02:03:08,390
in their logo for like decades you know

2750
02:03:12,310 --> 02:03:10,520
doing away with it okay here's one we

2751
02:03:14,590 --> 02:03:12,320
talked about sidney gottlieb you know

2752
02:03:15,880 --> 02:03:14,600
for some of our first time listeners or

2753
02:03:18,730 --> 02:03:15,890
listeners who are not aware

2754
02:03:20,890 --> 02:03:18,740
this guy was many people have said that

2755
02:03:22,750 --> 02:03:20,900
when they modelled cancer man for the

2756
02:03:26,170 --> 02:03:22,760
x-files it was based on Sidney Gottlieb

2757
02:03:29,290 --> 02:03:26,180
I think that's a huge stretch but this

2758
02:03:32,260 --> 02:03:29,300
guy was very very nefarious club-footed

2759
02:03:34,810 --> 02:03:32,270
had a high squeaky voice just very very

2760
02:03:38,350 --> 02:03:34,820
sinister was the head of the Army

2761
02:03:41,200 --> 02:03:38,360
chemical Corps help start in run MKULTRA

2762
02:03:43,090 --> 02:03:41,210
and artichoke and monarch and all these

2763
02:03:45,550 --> 02:03:43,100
other nefarious behavior modification

2764
02:03:48,250 --> 02:03:45,560
programs and LSD experiments he probably

2765
02:03:52,960 --> 02:03:48,260
was the one that had Frank Olson dosed

2766
02:03:55,480 --> 02:03:52,970
on LSD again a lot of this was destroyed

2767
02:03:57,550 --> 02:03:55,490
in the paperwork but as we mentioned but

2768
02:03:59,500 --> 02:03:57,560
here's the question from Ravens feet

2769
02:04:01,660 --> 02:03:59,510
this is something I didn't know and I'm

2770
02:04:03,970 --> 02:04:01,670
wondering if you knew this at the end of

2771
02:04:06,580 --> 02:04:03,980
his career as a head of MKULTRA Sidney

2772
02:04:09,940 --> 02:04:06,590
Gottlieb reportedly dismissed the entire

2773
02:04:12,820 --> 02:04:09,950
output of the project as useless outside

2774
02:04:14,470 --> 02:04:12,830
of torture interrogation situations do

2775
02:04:17,080 --> 02:04:14,480
you think Murray is there any evidence

2776
02:04:20,500 --> 02:04:17,090
that would lead us to disagree with his

2777
02:04:22,390 --> 02:04:20,510
assessment well useless to him maybe I

2778
02:04:25,840 --> 02:04:22,400
mean maybe he didn't achieve his

2779
02:04:28,780 --> 02:04:25,850
particular personal goals of it but I

2780
02:04:32,200 --> 02:04:28,790
think it definitely set the stage for

2781
02:04:35,650 --> 02:04:32,210
some of the manipulative techniques that

2782
02:04:38,950 --> 02:04:35,660
are still being tested or going on the

2783
02:04:40,480 --> 02:04:38,960
purpose was to find what worked I don't

2784
02:04:44,050 --> 02:04:40,490
know why it would make that kind of a

2785
02:04:46,390 --> 02:04:44,060
statement because we know later from

2786
02:04:48,700 --> 02:04:46,400
cult activity from the 70s throughout

2787
02:04:51,760 --> 02:04:48,710
the 90s that a lot of these same

2788
02:04:53,440 --> 02:04:51,770
techniques worked in the cult setting so

2789
02:04:56,050 --> 02:04:53,450
I don't know that it was a total failure

2790
02:04:57,700 --> 02:04:56,060
but I think maybe he had some personal

2791
02:05:00,670 --> 02:04:57,710
goal he wanted to get out of all this

2792
02:05:02,410 --> 02:05:00,680
that he he just didn't get I I didn't

2793
02:05:05,320 --> 02:05:02,420
realize that he had said that so I'm

2794
02:05:08,380 --> 02:05:05,330
probably just as curious but not the

2795
02:05:11,250 --> 02:05:08,390
stuff that was studied was provable that

2796
02:05:13,450 --> 02:05:11,260
you could alter somebody's behavior with

2797
02:05:15,850 --> 02:05:13,460
deprivation of food of sensory

2798
02:05:18,340 --> 02:05:15,860
deprivation was giving them you know

2799
02:05:20,320 --> 02:05:18,350
damaging drugs that would hurt part of

2800
02:05:21,820 --> 02:05:20,330
the brain or shut down certain parts of

2801
02:05:23,170 --> 02:05:21,830
the brain I mean a lot of this stuff

2802
02:05:25,210 --> 02:05:23,180
made sense

2803
02:05:27,370 --> 02:05:25,220
well microwave stimulation the

2804
02:05:28,859 --> 02:05:27,380
experiments of Delgado by the way you

2805
02:05:30,959 --> 02:05:28,869
got the date wrong for the

2806
02:05:33,959 --> 02:05:30,969
Oh stopping the bull it was actually in

2807
02:05:36,989 --> 02:05:33,969
the early 70s that he did that not 2003

2808
02:05:38,850 --> 02:05:36,999
here's one from one of our burnt State

2809
02:05:41,179 --> 02:05:38,860
or Robert is one of our favorite posters

2810
02:05:43,850 --> 02:05:41,189
he's from Canada he's a school teacher

2811
02:05:48,209 --> 02:05:43,860
he's posted over three thousand almost

2812
02:05:51,060 --> 02:05:48,219
3,500 posts the guy really I'm humbled

2813
02:05:53,040 --> 02:05:51,070
by his analytical abilities and and boy

2814
02:05:54,689 --> 02:05:53,050
he's got some really good questions here

2815
02:05:56,850 --> 02:05:54,699
let me start with this one

2816
02:05:59,609 --> 02:05:56,860
Marie if in fact governments or other

2817
02:06:02,520 --> 02:05:59,619
factional bodies within Nations had the

2818
02:06:06,209 --> 02:06:02,530
power for mass control mind influence do

2819
02:06:08,759 --> 02:06:06,219
you not think this would be an in North

2820
02:06:11,279 --> 02:06:08,769
Korea we see a kind of impose 1984

2821
02:06:13,679 --> 02:06:11,289
scenario taking place in its buffoonish

2822
02:06:15,509 --> 02:06:13,689
at best but do you see the possibility

2823
02:06:17,549 --> 02:06:15,519
of such tactics being used in more

2824
02:06:20,219 --> 02:06:17,559
subtle ways over larger portions of the

2825
02:06:22,459 --> 02:06:20,229
Western civilization and do you think

2826
02:06:27,029 --> 02:06:22,469
they'd be if effective I add oh wow

2827
02:06:29,609 --> 02:06:27,039
you're gonna make me sound paranoid I

2828
02:06:32,429 --> 02:06:29,619
think it's being done to us in a

2829
02:06:36,889 --> 02:06:32,439
different way I think it's being done in

2830
02:06:40,379 --> 02:06:36,899
a more subtle manner we can't have a

2831
02:06:42,689 --> 02:06:40,389
lunatic dictator I think most Americans

2832
02:06:44,969 --> 02:06:42,699
would probably respond poorly to that

2833
02:06:47,489 --> 02:06:44,979
well some people think we already have a

2834
02:06:49,709 --> 02:06:47,499
lunatic dictator let's just put that in

2835
02:06:52,259 --> 02:06:49,719
perspective well I think we have a

2836
02:06:56,520 --> 02:06:52,269
puppet but I think more people are

2837
02:06:59,569 --> 02:06:56,530
realizing that there's too many of us to

2838
02:07:03,589 --> 02:06:59,579
control in those old-fashioned ways

2839
02:07:07,259 --> 02:07:03,599
which is probably why the media has been

2840
02:07:09,509 --> 02:07:07,269
welcomed with open arms as a method to

2841
02:07:13,709 --> 02:07:09,519
sort of help that along I think that

2842
02:07:15,750 --> 02:07:13,719
there are too many Americans and there

2843
02:07:17,969 --> 02:07:15,760
are too many that maybe are a little bit

2844
02:07:19,350 --> 02:07:17,979
awake to what's going on certainly we

2845
02:07:21,209 --> 02:07:19,360
know what's going on in other parts of

2846
02:07:23,009 --> 02:07:21,219
the world and oh we're not going to let

2847
02:07:27,000 --> 02:07:23,019
that happen here even though we are in

2848
02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:27,010
more subtle ways gosh that's a tough one

2849
02:07:32,850 --> 02:07:30,010
yes I think it's happening yes I think

2850
02:07:35,310 --> 02:07:32,860
it's happening in different ways I think

2851
02:07:37,619 --> 02:07:35,320
the media and the manipulation of news

2852
02:07:39,179 --> 02:07:37,629
is one of the biggest ones and I will

2853
02:07:41,310 --> 02:07:39,189
tell you what I think is probably equal

2854
02:07:42,760 --> 02:07:41,320
and that is the rise of social

2855
02:07:46,740 --> 02:07:42,770
networking if

2856
02:07:52,590 --> 02:07:46,750
you want to alter the behavior of people

2857
02:07:54,850 --> 02:07:52,600
go look at Facebook and you see things

2858
02:07:57,040 --> 02:07:54,860
Blair and I wrote a book last year

2859
02:07:59,410 --> 02:07:57,050
called viral mythology all about how

2860
02:08:02,260 --> 02:07:59,420
information went viral in ancient times

2861
02:08:04,450 --> 02:08:02,270
and how it goes viral today and the

2862
02:08:06,940 --> 02:08:04,460
links and connections and differences

2863
02:08:09,610 --> 02:08:06,950
between the two if you want to send

2864
02:08:12,450 --> 02:08:09,620
something viral now and reach as many

2865
02:08:14,980 --> 02:08:12,460
people as possible with complete BS

2866
02:08:16,320 --> 02:08:14,990
propaganda rumors fake stories

2867
02:08:21,370 --> 02:08:16,330
misinformation disinformation

2868
02:08:24,730 --> 02:08:21,380
what-have-you social networking it is a

2869
02:08:27,220 --> 02:08:24,740
monster it is a beast with two phases

2870
02:08:29,350 --> 02:08:27,230
one of which is the fun one that

2871
02:08:31,900 --> 02:08:29,360
connects people I have friends all over

2872
02:08:35,340 --> 02:08:31,910
the world because of it the other one is

2873
02:08:37,900 --> 02:08:35,350
the ability to send bad information

2874
02:08:40,090 --> 02:08:37,910
across the world in a matter of seconds

2875
02:08:42,760 --> 02:08:40,100
and have it go viral there too you know

2876
02:08:56,140 --> 02:08:42,770
it's having a real effect on me I'm

2877
02:08:58,810 --> 02:08:56,150
starting to hate cats it's part of who I

2878
02:09:03,400 --> 02:08:58,820
am it's you know part promoting my work

2879
02:09:04,900 --> 02:09:03,410
I love people but I am so aware now and

2880
02:09:07,060 --> 02:09:04,910
also not just the ways that we

2881
02:09:10,450 --> 02:09:07,070
manipulate each other because of our

2882
02:09:11,800 --> 02:09:10,460
ignorance and lack of you know wanting

2883
02:09:14,620 --> 02:09:11,810
to actually research what we're sending

2884
02:09:16,630 --> 02:09:14,630
viral but also how Facebook itself is

2885
02:09:18,910 --> 02:09:16,640
manipulating us and I mean they have

2886
02:09:20,860 --> 02:09:18,920
been doing that for years they've been

2887
02:09:23,320 --> 02:09:20,870
well you mention that in your book that

2888
02:09:25,570 --> 02:09:23,330
they've done studies and actually done

2889
02:09:27,940 --> 02:09:25,580
experiments to see what kind of

2890
02:09:30,400 --> 02:09:27,950
emotional response and and posting

2891
02:09:32,440 --> 02:09:30,410
responses they get from feeding certain

2892
02:09:34,890 --> 02:09:32,450
individuals certain types of information

2893
02:09:37,930 --> 02:09:34,900
that's a little scary that's sobering

2894
02:09:40,360 --> 02:09:37,940
even it's strange though this theory or

2895
02:09:42,070 --> 02:09:40,370
this possibility here that the social

2896
02:09:44,770 --> 02:09:42,080
networks which are meant to be things

2897
02:09:46,630 --> 02:09:44,780
that we originated our own content to

2898
02:09:49,780 --> 02:09:46,640
share our lives with our friends could

2899
02:09:52,180 --> 02:09:49,790
be manipulated and use as a means of

2900
02:09:56,870 --> 02:09:52,190
controlling what we do of controlling

2901
02:10:05,370 --> 02:10:02,609
because we manipulate people through

2902
02:10:08,250 --> 02:10:05,380
something that is fun the entertainment

2903
02:10:10,050 --> 02:10:08,260
industry we enjoy being taken down and

2904
02:10:13,530 --> 02:10:10,060
destroying ourselves like at the point

2905
02:10:16,260 --> 02:10:13,540
mind wars or is Facebook taking us over

2906
02:10:17,189 --> 02:10:16,270
or has it done so already are we already

2907
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asked grasp

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I wonder Marie Jones Jean and Chris

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2941
02:12:17,070 --> 02:12:14,770
with people use the code Gorge for a

2942
02:12:19,020 --> 02:12:17,080
substantial discount mark Rawlings

2943
02:12:20,520 --> 02:12:19,030
president of paranormal date comm says

2944
02:12:22,800 --> 02:12:20,530
so many people hunger to share their

2945
02:12:25,050 --> 02:12:22,810
experiences about the paranormal the

2946
02:12:27,270 --> 02:12:25,060
unexplainable or the afterlife and so

2947
02:12:29,010 --> 02:12:27,280
much more and this is the source for

2948
02:12:31,170 --> 02:12:29,020
them to meet and share that common

2949
02:12:34,500 --> 02:12:31,180
interest Society for free at paranormal

2950
02:12:36,930 --> 02:12:34,510
date calm paranormal date calm and use

2951
02:12:38,510 --> 02:12:36,940
the code George if you decide to connect

2952
02:12:42,950 --> 02:12:38,520
with someone you like

2953
02:12:47,340 --> 02:12:45,479
why do over fifty percent of North

2954
02:12:49,260 --> 02:12:47,350
Americans suffer from some form of

2955
02:12:51,750 --> 02:12:49,270
chronic ailment could it be due to a

2956
02:12:53,970 --> 02:12:51,760
toxic overload it's time to take back

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your life get the lead out as well as

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five other herbs that acts like a

2961
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cleaning out the stored toxins restoring

2963
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your energy and youthfulness that we've

2964
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2965
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free of sickness pain or fear that

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extender bite is for you available in

2967
02:13:19,200 --> 02:13:17,320
either capsules or liquid you too can

2968
02:13:21,660 --> 02:13:19,210
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2969
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2970
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2971
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2972
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2973
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or visit our website at heart drop calm

2974
02:13:42,420 --> 02:13:40,470
Gold isn't for you today Anderson

2975
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president of Midas Resources one of the

2976
02:13:46,320 --> 02:13:44,320
world's premier gold and precious metal

2977
02:13:47,940 --> 02:13:46,330
investing firms I get it you wouldn't

2978
02:13:50,040 --> 02:13:47,950
buy gold if you believed that the

2979
02:13:51,840 --> 02:13:50,050
government is doing a great job that the

2980
02:13:53,910 --> 02:13:51,850
Fed will stop handing out trillions of

2981
02:13:55,590 --> 02:13:53,920
dollars like bailout candy that social

2982
02:13:56,790 --> 02:13:55,600
security would be there for you that's

2983
02:13:58,890 --> 02:13:56,800
not what's happening

2984
02:14:00,930 --> 02:13:58,900
you might even pass on gold if the

2985
02:14:03,120 --> 02:14:00,940
stimulus package wouldn't fuel inflation

2986
02:14:05,040 --> 02:14:03,130
or that the dollar wouldn't lose value

2987
02:14:07,500 --> 02:14:05,050
or that your retirement would be secure

2988
02:14:09,480 --> 02:14:07,510
if all looks rosy to you then now is not

2989
02:14:10,860 --> 02:14:09,490
the time to buy goal for the realists

2990
02:14:13,110 --> 02:14:10,870
there have never been more sobering

2991
02:14:16,680 --> 02:14:13,120
reasons to diversify with gold since

2992
02:14:18,360 --> 02:14:16,690
2001 the US Dollar Index has tanked 30%

2993
02:14:20,400 --> 02:14:18,370
while gold has risen three hundred

2994
02:14:22,410 --> 02:14:20,410
percent right now savvy investors are

2995
02:14:24,510 --> 02:14:22,420
adding gold to their portfolios you

2996
02:14:26,400 --> 02:14:24,520
should to find out what they know call

2997
02:14:28,440 --> 02:14:26,410
us and I'll send you 10 reasons why gold

2998
02:14:30,720 --> 02:14:28,450
will do very well three eight hundred

2999
02:14:32,730 --> 02:14:30,730
six eight six two two three seven eight

3000
02:14:35,010 --> 02:14:32,740
hundred six eight six two two three

3001
02:14:39,270 --> 02:14:35,020
seven that's eight hundred six eight six

3002
02:14:45,480 --> 02:14:43,740
[Music]

3003
02:14:47,340 --> 02:14:45,490
this is Micah Hanks to the graylien

3004
02:14:49,410 --> 02:14:47,350
report and you're listening to the para

3005
02:14:50,130 --> 02:14:49,420
cast the gold standard of paranormal

3006
02:14:57,140 --> 02:14:50,140
radio

3007
02:15:02,270 --> 02:14:57,150
[Music]

3008
02:15:04,070 --> 02:15:02,280
Oh My heavens Chris is finally off the

3009
02:15:07,310 --> 02:15:04,080
deep end he's been taken over by the

3010
02:15:09,800 --> 02:15:07,320
Facebook beast there the trickster at

3011
02:15:14,870 --> 02:15:09,810
Facebook well I figured I'd just you

3012
02:15:22,000 --> 02:15:17,900
Twitter especially were reduced to a

3013
02:15:26,420 --> 02:15:22,010
hundred forty characters on entire lives

3014
02:15:29,260 --> 02:15:26,430
140 characters at a time so shallow what

3015
02:15:32,750 --> 02:15:29,270
a BF Skinner say I think things have

3016
02:15:35,210 --> 02:15:32,760
positive benefits but I think that

3017
02:15:37,640 --> 02:15:35,220
whoever I don't want to thank Mark

3018
02:15:39,410 --> 02:15:37,650
Zuckerberg when he created Facebook with

3019
02:15:41,750 --> 02:15:39,420
his group of people I know he wasn't

3020
02:15:43,850 --> 02:15:41,760
alone in doing so that the purpose was

3021
02:15:46,520 --> 02:15:43,860
to get people so addicted to something

3022
02:15:49,100 --> 02:15:46,530
that they would literally stop talking

3023
02:15:49,810 --> 02:15:49,110
to each other face-to-face and not have

3024
02:15:52,820 --> 02:15:49,820
lives

3025
02:15:57,080 --> 02:15:52,830
why not assume that what do you think

3026
02:15:59,480 --> 02:15:57,090
texting is all about you go anywhere now

3027
02:16:02,930 --> 02:15:59,490
and you watch people sitting there at

3028
02:16:04,580 --> 02:16:02,940
dinner or just sitting down and how many

3029
02:16:06,710 --> 02:16:04,590
of those people have taken out their

3030
02:16:08,960 --> 02:16:06,720
smartphones and how many of those people

3031
02:16:10,700 --> 02:16:08,970
have started texting it's and maybe

3032
02:16:12,680 --> 02:16:10,710
that's the value of the Apple watch by

3033
02:16:16,490 --> 02:16:12,690
the way folks which is it supposedly

3034
02:16:18,440 --> 02:16:16,500
helps reduce that cost if I get a

3035
02:16:23,000 --> 02:16:18,450
Facebook post of somebody's dinner

3036
02:16:27,230 --> 02:16:23,010
unless it's sushi i unfriend them or

3037
02:16:29,090 --> 02:16:27,240
their well you know the other day we

3038
02:16:31,370 --> 02:16:29,100
were over at a Mediterranean restaurant

3039
02:16:42,280 --> 02:16:31,380
Chris if I sent you a photo event what I

3040
02:16:47,270 --> 02:16:44,419
somebody I know all these Facebook

3041
02:16:50,510 --> 02:16:47,280
friends to me it's artifice it's it's

3042
02:16:53,450 --> 02:16:50,520
not real you know I've got almost 3,000

3043
02:16:56,209 --> 02:16:53,460
people that that I supposedly am calling

3044
02:16:59,270 --> 02:16:56,219
friends I'm on the author I'm a host of

3045
02:17:01,850 --> 02:16:59,280
a radio show you know I have kind of a

3046
02:17:04,790 --> 02:17:01,860
responsibility I think to my audience to

3047
02:17:08,090 --> 02:17:04,800
some degree so you know I I do make

3048
02:17:09,860 --> 02:17:08,100
people earn that click of accept to some

3049
02:17:10,730 --> 02:17:09,870
degree I don't blank it accept anybody

3050
02:17:13,219 --> 02:17:10,740
if

3051
02:17:15,410 --> 02:17:13,229
Jeane sends me something or Marie sends

3052
02:17:17,570 --> 02:17:15,420
me something or someone that I know and

3053
02:17:19,580 --> 02:17:17,580
have talked to sends me something that's

3054
02:17:21,830 --> 02:17:19,590
innocuous but is made to brighten up my

3055
02:17:24,589 --> 02:17:21,840
day that's one thing but if somebody is

3056
02:17:28,160 --> 02:17:24,599
sending out a blanket post or asking me

3057
02:17:31,879 --> 02:17:28,170
to join them in a facebook game or

3058
02:17:34,430 --> 02:17:31,889
something oh man that's like all the

3059
02:17:37,660 --> 02:17:34,440
Klaxons and alarm whistles go off and

3060
02:17:41,150 --> 02:17:37,670
boy that's a real time waster I did also

3061
02:17:44,600 --> 02:17:41,160
you know for those of us that are in the

3062
02:17:47,209 --> 02:17:44,610
public eye it has its benefits but I

3063
02:17:49,339 --> 02:17:47,219
think that a lot of you know the vast

3064
02:17:52,009 --> 02:17:49,349
majority of people are finding it to be

3065
02:17:54,560 --> 02:17:52,019
an addiction that they can't get over I

3066
02:17:56,750 --> 02:17:54,570
mean I you know I tried going off of

3067
02:17:58,910 --> 02:17:56,760
social networking for a few days and I

3068
02:18:10,459 --> 02:17:58,920
because I'm a writer full time I feel

3069
02:18:14,150 --> 02:18:10,469
isolated a lot cold sweats and I can see

3070
02:18:18,490 --> 02:18:14,160
how so what I was saying earlier is was

3071
02:18:21,950 --> 02:18:18,500
that addiction part of the motive behind

3072
02:18:25,129 --> 02:18:21,960
the creation you know was the creative

3073
02:18:27,980 --> 02:18:25,139
basement intended consequences I don't

3074
02:18:30,770 --> 02:18:27,990
wanna say that you know maybe it was or

3075
02:18:34,070 --> 02:18:30,780
wasn't but wow what a way to control the

3076
02:18:36,740 --> 02:18:34,080
populace because most people are on some

3077
02:18:39,259 --> 02:18:36,750
form of social networking and I tell you

3078
02:18:41,959 --> 02:18:39,269
so many people that say they're going to

3079
02:18:43,640 --> 02:18:41,969
get off they've had enough they don't

3080
02:18:46,400 --> 02:18:43,650
well now we're seeing that social

3081
02:18:48,140 --> 02:18:46,410
networking can change giant corporations

3082
02:18:50,930 --> 02:18:48,150
that we have this famous incident where

3083
02:18:53,120 --> 02:18:50,940
Taylor Swift post something on tumblr

3084
02:18:55,310 --> 02:18:53,130
which is a block off site and she says

3085
02:18:57,049 --> 02:18:55,320
well Apple is doing the bad thing with

3086
02:18:59,480 --> 02:18:57,059
this new Apple music subscription

3087
02:19:01,669 --> 02:18:59,490
service because when you get the free 90

3088
02:19:04,339 --> 02:19:01,679
day trial when you sign up they're not

3089
02:19:05,660 --> 02:19:04,349
paying royalties to the musical artists

3090
02:19:08,330 --> 02:19:05,670
how could they do such a thing

3091
02:19:11,030 --> 02:19:08,340
that afternoon Apple changed its policy

3092
02:19:15,700 --> 02:19:11,040
well because of this statement on a

3093
02:19:22,410 --> 02:19:20,890
Facebook I used Twitter I'm not really

3094
02:19:24,629 --> 02:19:22,420
savvy

3095
02:19:26,910 --> 02:19:24,639
my son kept saying no you need to get on

3096
02:19:29,549 --> 02:19:26,920
this and that and so forget it Instagram

3097
02:19:31,799 --> 02:19:29,559
what it's just pictures and I can't I

3098
02:19:34,860 --> 02:19:31,809
can barely take a picture even Twitter I

3099
02:19:38,250 --> 02:19:34,870
mean why would somebody want to listen

3100
02:19:44,549 --> 02:19:38,260
to my just off-the-cuff thoughts during

3101
02:19:47,549 --> 02:19:44,559
my day I'm a busy guy yeah I met quite a

3102
02:19:50,250 --> 02:19:47,559
number of fellow colleagues in a

3103
02:19:53,519 --> 02:19:50,260
writer's gotten on some great shows from

3104
02:19:56,460 --> 02:19:53,529
it but to just post am have a pancakes I

3105
02:19:58,559 --> 02:19:56,470
don't care I don't care what you're

3106
02:19:59,939 --> 02:19:58,569
having for breakfast ya know in here let

3107
02:20:01,830 --> 02:19:59,949
me tell you a little secret here it is a

3108
02:20:03,510 --> 02:20:01,840
bit manipulative too because so for

3109
02:20:07,320 --> 02:20:03,520
example I talked to my agent and my

3110
02:20:09,750 --> 02:20:07,330
manager and I you know i express oh I'm

3111
02:20:11,880 --> 02:20:09,760
so I don't want to be on it as often but

3112
02:20:14,010 --> 02:20:11,890
they'll say but you've built up this

3113
02:20:16,649 --> 02:20:14,020
persona where you're very friendly

3114
02:20:19,139 --> 02:20:16,659
you're very open so sometimes you should

3115
02:20:21,960 --> 02:20:19,149
post personal stuff and then other times

3116
02:20:23,969 --> 02:20:21,970
post about your work so even those of us

3117
02:20:27,059 --> 02:20:23,979
that are using social networking for

3118
02:20:29,399 --> 02:20:27,069
work purposes to some extent we are

3119
02:20:31,639 --> 02:20:29,409
manipulating people right we're trying

3120
02:20:35,670 --> 02:20:31,649
to sell something every now and then

3121
02:20:39,300 --> 02:20:35,680
wars in social media

3122
02:20:48,439 --> 02:20:39,310
yeah I'm guilty as charged excuse me the

3123
02:20:51,059 --> 02:20:48,449
way it's said is guilty guilty guilty

3124
02:20:53,340 --> 02:20:51,069
okay we've got a captive audience here

3125
02:21:00,920 --> 02:20:53,350
that leads me to my next question from

3126
02:21:05,399 --> 02:21:03,389
stop gene come on I'm trying to get

3127
02:21:07,439 --> 02:21:05,409
serious here do you have any historic

3128
02:21:09,899 --> 02:21:07,449
proof of mind-control experiments taking

3129
02:21:11,969 --> 02:21:09,909
place in prisons where inmates have been

3130
02:21:17,240 --> 02:21:11,979
subjected to the use of remote

3131
02:21:23,219 --> 02:21:20,309
absolutely there again part of MKULTRA

3132
02:21:25,349 --> 02:21:23,229
was prison experimentation I also talked

3133
02:21:30,530 --> 02:21:25,359
to a number of people that were involved

3134
02:21:33,000 --> 02:21:30,540
in oversight of prison experimentation

3135
02:21:35,070 --> 02:21:33,010
representing the prisoners or trying to

3136
02:21:37,830 --> 02:21:35,080
make sure that the whatever was done

3137
02:21:40,680 --> 02:21:37,840
done within the laws of the land and

3138
02:21:42,690 --> 02:21:40,690
this is still happening today again I

3139
02:21:45,720 --> 02:21:42,700
bring up Whitey Bulger what you know

3140
02:21:47,761 --> 02:21:45,730
what a very timely story because again

3141
02:21:49,230 --> 02:21:47,771
there's a huge movie coming out and I

3142
02:21:51,150 --> 02:21:49,240
don't have anything to do with the movie

3143
02:21:53,700 --> 02:21:51,160
that's not I'm not pitching the movie

3144
02:21:56,850 --> 02:21:53,710
but I was shocked when I found out that

3145
02:21:59,160 --> 02:21:56,860
somebody like this Irish gangster had

3146
02:22:01,530 --> 02:21:59,170
actually volunteered and a lot of the

3147
02:22:03,420 --> 02:22:01,540
prisoners that were they do volunteer

3148
02:22:04,920 --> 02:22:03,430
wasn't always done against their will or

3149
02:22:08,100 --> 02:22:04,930
against their knowledge that they were

3150
02:22:11,280 --> 02:22:08,110
promised shorter sentences or suspended

3151
02:22:12,750 --> 02:22:11,290
charges or what have you so there's been

3152
02:22:15,090 --> 02:22:12,760
a number of books on there been

3153
02:22:17,460 --> 02:22:15,100
documentaries written produced about

3154
02:22:18,810 --> 02:22:17,470
that and we included one and I'm gonna

3155
02:22:21,840 --> 02:22:18,820
try to remember her name but I'll

3156
02:22:24,900 --> 02:22:21,850
probably completely blow it but we have

3157
02:22:27,090 --> 02:22:24,910
a sidebar in the book from a woman what

3158
02:22:28,980 --> 02:22:27,100
her job was was to basically oversee

3159
02:22:33,480 --> 02:22:28,990
what was done and make sure that it was

3160
02:22:35,820 --> 02:22:33,490
kosher so to speak because if you're

3161
02:22:38,370 --> 02:22:35,830
being experimented on and you're

3162
02:22:40,470 --> 02:22:38,380
mentally ill or you're a child or you

3163
02:22:42,090 --> 02:22:40,480
have no idea you know you're mentally

3164
02:22:44,880 --> 02:22:42,100
incapacitated or what-have-you even

3165
02:22:46,650 --> 02:22:44,890
disabled to an extent you know they can

3166
02:22:49,110 --> 02:22:46,660
do whatever they want there are no rules

3167
02:22:51,780 --> 02:22:49,120
and I think with a lot of prisoners

3168
02:22:55,080 --> 02:22:51,790
there was that temptation to allow

3169
02:22:57,150 --> 02:22:55,090
themselves to become subjects to a lot

3170
02:22:59,610 --> 02:22:57,160
of this stuff before the promise of

3171
02:23:02,520 --> 02:22:59,620
freedom and I might have given into that

3172
02:23:04,530 --> 02:23:02,530
myself had I been in prison yeah that

3173
02:23:10,470 --> 02:23:04,540
makes sense I mean you have like I said

3174
02:23:12,120 --> 02:23:10,480
you have a captive audience you have you

3175
02:23:14,970 --> 02:23:12,130
have a ten year sentence well we'll cut

3176
02:23:19,500 --> 02:23:14,980
it down to five if you let us test this

3177
02:23:22,440 --> 02:23:19,510
new you know psychotic drug on you and I

3178
02:23:26,520 --> 02:23:22,450
might accept that myself it's just a

3179
02:23:30,270 --> 02:23:26,530
drug right well here's here's one that's

3180
02:23:35,460 --> 02:23:30,280
even more interesting the CIA was forced

3181
02:23:38,700 --> 02:23:35,470
to in the early 60s to move their LSD

3182
02:23:42,390 --> 02:23:38,710
drug trials into a very kind of low-key

3183
02:23:43,740 --> 02:23:42,400
but public sector when they I think

3184
02:23:45,870 --> 02:23:43,750
we're barred from doing it

3185
02:23:47,970 --> 02:23:45,880
clandestinely on prisoners and they

3186
02:23:53,970 --> 02:23:47,980
actually offered

3187
02:23:56,640 --> 02:23:53,980
the trips to unsuspected were willing to

3188
02:24:00,060 --> 02:23:56,650
undergo them in the 60s and they happen

3189
02:24:02,011 --> 02:24:00,070
to turn on some of the pillars of the

3190
02:24:04,650 --> 02:24:02,021
counterculture community including some

3191
02:24:07,140 --> 02:24:04,660
that went on to you know manufacture

3192
02:24:10,740 --> 02:24:07,150
millions of hits and and and promote

3193
02:24:13,051 --> 02:24:10,750
promote the whole LSD vibe you know to a

3194
02:24:15,360 --> 02:24:13,061
whole generation of people Lucy in the

3195
02:24:17,671 --> 02:24:15,370
Sky with Diamonds no wasn't about that

3196
02:24:20,070 --> 02:24:17,681
at least that's what John Lennon claimed

3197
02:24:38,820 --> 02:24:20,080
we have Marie Jones with gene and Chris

3198
02:24:41,161 --> 02:24:38,830
you're in graphic converter is the image

3199
02:24:44,070 --> 02:24:41,171
manipulation tool for the rest of us it

3200
02:24:46,261 --> 02:24:44,080
does not use any database you get full

3201
02:24:48,661 --> 02:24:46,271
control of all your files want to view

3202
02:24:51,211 --> 02:24:48,671
the images of a folder drag it into

3203
02:24:53,940 --> 02:24:51,221
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paranormal radio right that's what they

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actually said that it was really Julian

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Lennon writing some kind of childish

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picture saying as a kid it was Lucy in

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the Sky with Diamonds and John Lennon

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wrote a song about it but everyone says

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it was an LSD and maybe that was the

3304
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excuse right Chris he was programming

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culture he was using the subliminal mind

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war techniques let me ask you a question

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here can we think then that maybe his

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murderer was really someone under mind

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control they had to get rid of Lennon

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because he talked too much

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well there's a whole cadre of people who

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believe that many of the pop culture

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icons that were assassinated or died of

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drug overdoses died of more sinister

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means because they were influencing

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culture too much they were but I want to

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just throw something in for the last

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02:29:51,899 --> 02:29:49,090
person the last questioner um to look up

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the Stanford Prison Experiment that was

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the documentary I was trying to remember

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there's a great movie coming out about

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it but there was also a documentary done

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and this students became inmates and

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then became jailers creepy and it shows

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you the oh the creepy more creepier

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aspects of human behavior yuck but yeah

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02:30:23,340 --> 02:30:21,369
and Freddie Prinze Jimi Hendrix Janis

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Joplin there's so many people that

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believe that Jim Morrison that they

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didn't really die the way that they

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claimed or that they were assassinated

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in the case of John Lennon because they

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were getting too influential on society

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what I always wonder here is why we had

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people like Jimi Hendrix and Jim

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Morrison and one or two others died at

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the age of 27 Janis Joplin for example

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Thayne yeah I don't know it's creepy I

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mean maybe the number nine which I would

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you know seven and two or maybe 27 maybe

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02:31:09,280 --> 02:31:00,520
that the number nine whatever burn nice

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member and dying if you think about it

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02:31:15,700 --> 02:31:13,420
was probably more influential in his

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what he talked about what he believed

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that most religious leaders and

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political leaders of that time for

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saying it he said were more popular than

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Jesus and I started working with a radio

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station a rock station in the South not

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02:31:34,330 --> 02:31:31,939
long after that and they banned the

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Beatles records for a few months then

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realized nobody cares and they started

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02:31:43,149 --> 02:31:39,380
playing them again what was the name of

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the charity works organization that

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Chapman world something or other world

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02:31:55,359 --> 02:31:51,350
vision I think well yeah he was a he had

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been recruited by none other than John

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Hinckley senior it was the father of

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02:32:03,609 --> 02:32:00,109
course of John Hinckley jr. who tried to

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take out Reagan after George Bush had

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just bought thirty dry oil wells from

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him deeper you dig the more you find

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02:32:22,269 --> 02:32:19,069
these weird connections between people

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02:32:24,880 --> 02:32:22,279
that really make you rethink some of the

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things that happen I love may Brussels

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was a conspiracy theorists a lot of

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people haven't heard about her I have

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02:32:34,510 --> 02:32:31,640
been dying to try to write a biography

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02:32:37,139 --> 02:32:34,520
have not had John judged who was his

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yeah she is one of my idols she was a

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ridiculous researcher and specialty was

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finding links and connections that other

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02:32:49,030 --> 02:32:46,520
people just overlooked or didn't even

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02:32:52,870 --> 02:32:49,040
look for so when you hear something like

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02:32:55,000 --> 02:32:52,880
that connections between these people

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02:33:00,670 --> 02:32:55,010
it does make you sit up and say wait a

3377
02:33:02,830 --> 02:33:00,680
minute is that coincidence I'm sure and

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02:33:03,469 --> 02:33:02,840
Thomas he's another one who I have an

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immense

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02:33:09,739 --> 02:33:07,649
out of respect and in horror following

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02:33:13,399 --> 02:33:09,749
Ken's work and course steam shovel press

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02:33:15,109 --> 02:33:13,409
and oh yeah the whole idea that there's

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not something going on behind the scenes

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02:33:22,120 --> 02:33:17,489
to me is ludicrous if you look at the

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whole promise software Danny casolaro

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02:33:29,000 --> 02:33:25,859
you can get into some really spooky

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02:33:32,330 --> 02:33:29,010
paranoid paranoia inducing territory

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02:33:34,429 --> 02:33:32,340
that doesn't necessarily directly deal

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02:33:37,540 --> 02:33:34,439
with mind control but boy I'll tell you

3390
02:33:40,460 --> 02:33:37,550
you know the types of conspiratorial

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02:33:42,979 --> 02:33:40,470
circumstantial evidence in some areas

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02:33:45,050 --> 02:33:42,989
ties directly to the whole idea of mind

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02:33:50,510 --> 02:33:45,060
wars and the manipulation of people's

3394
02:33:53,630 --> 02:33:50,520
free will so you know maybe this isn't

3395
02:33:56,300 --> 02:33:53,640
just mind control but we're also talking

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about a small group of people that

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02:34:00,880 --> 02:33:58,770
actually manipulate history they

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02:34:04,580 --> 02:34:00,890
manipulate the events that happen

3399
02:34:07,399 --> 02:34:04,590
there's para politics I love it it's a

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very deep rabbit hole and you have to

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have really thick skin to go down that

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02:34:15,469 --> 02:34:12,659
hole because it gets it gets really

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02:34:17,989 --> 02:34:15,479
scary and you do start a little paranoid

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02:34:21,649 --> 02:34:17,999
well present company excluded of course

3405
02:34:23,719 --> 02:34:21,659
gene he gets paranoid a teddy bear

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02:34:26,269 --> 02:34:23,729
doesn't bark when the mailman shows up

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02:34:30,019 --> 02:34:26,279
so we have something now called stop fat

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02:34:32,569 --> 02:34:30,029
which is a spray really and that spray

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02:34:35,689 --> 02:34:32,579
quiets him down first he tries to attack

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02:34:37,550 --> 02:34:35,699
the can the canister contains it but

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02:34:39,200 --> 02:34:37,560
then he quiets down after a while

3412
02:34:40,609 --> 02:34:39,210
but I'll tell you something seriously I

3413
02:34:43,250 --> 02:34:40,619
was doing a radio show with Craig

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02:34:45,700 --> 02:34:43,260
Crossman called computer America and he

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02:34:48,050 --> 02:34:45,710
wouldn't stop barking you chemically

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02:34:53,630 --> 02:34:48,060
mind Waring your dog

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02:35:00,229 --> 02:34:53,640
right on he's not gonna bark and then

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02:35:01,340 --> 02:35:00,239
you're gonna be angry the least thing

3419
02:35:05,750 --> 02:35:01,350
that they'd have to worry about

3420
02:35:07,939 --> 02:35:05,760
he's a be shown he's not called teddy

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02:35:09,769 --> 02:35:07,949
bear by accident his bite could be

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02:35:11,870 --> 02:35:09,779
bigger than his Burke didn't ever know

3423
02:35:13,580 --> 02:35:11,880
but yeah that's interesting that we do

3424
02:35:16,400 --> 02:35:13,590
that we we try to control the behavior

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02:35:19,490 --> 02:35:16,410
of our pets all the time in our

3426
02:35:22,490 --> 02:35:19,500
children and then when they're older

3427
02:35:24,740 --> 02:35:22,500
they try to control us so I think that

3428
02:35:27,051 --> 02:35:24,750
this mind control stuff is just such a

3429
02:35:29,660 --> 02:35:27,061
part of our human behavior that we all

3430
02:35:35,150 --> 02:35:29,670
stand guilty so we just have to bend

3431
02:35:37,790 --> 02:35:35,160
over and take it huh especially if you

3432
02:35:40,820 --> 02:35:37,800
have teenagers I really you know I think

3433
02:35:42,230 --> 02:35:40,830
that it's it's just once you become

3434
02:35:44,180 --> 02:35:42,240
aware of it you start to see it

3435
02:35:46,070 --> 02:35:44,190
everywhere I think that's a good thing

3436
02:35:48,200 --> 02:35:46,080
because then you become more aware of

3437
02:35:50,870 --> 02:35:48,210
what thoughts and behaviors really are

3438
02:35:53,930 --> 02:35:50,880
your own and which ones have just been

3439
02:35:55,520 --> 02:35:53,940
kind of autopilot programming right but

3440
02:35:58,011 --> 02:35:55,530
if you're not grounded that kind of

3441
02:36:03,140 --> 02:35:58,021
information can be very disabled izing

3442
02:36:05,420 --> 02:36:03,150
yeah and and some people you know it

3443
02:36:08,000 --> 02:36:05,430
doesn't take much to rattle their

3444
02:36:11,030 --> 02:36:08,010
reality view and destabilize them from

3445
02:36:14,720 --> 02:36:11,040
from the understanding that you know

3446
02:36:17,110 --> 02:36:14,730
only X amount or X percentage of their

3447
02:36:19,730 --> 02:36:17,120
everyday activities or you know

3448
02:36:21,290 --> 02:36:19,740
self-directed and that sitting in front

3449
02:36:23,180 --> 02:36:21,300
of the TV and all of a sudden having a

3450
02:36:26,000 --> 02:36:23,190
hankering for Cheetos because they've

3451
02:36:26,841 --> 02:36:26,010
you know recently had a massive ad

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02:36:29,390 --> 02:36:26,851
campaign

3453
02:36:31,310 --> 02:36:29,400
you know there's that's why I really

3454
02:36:34,280 --> 02:36:31,320
urge people and you know I'll probably

3455
02:36:38,210 --> 02:36:34,290
get some sort of men in black at my door

3456
02:36:40,790 --> 02:36:38,220
but you know I literally you know did a

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02:36:43,460 --> 02:36:40,800
discus Olympic discus thrower and move

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02:36:46,420 --> 02:36:43,470
with my dish satellite receiver down a

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02:36:49,070 --> 02:36:46,430
cliff oh that's why I dish satellite

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doesn't advertise on this show listen we

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02:36:55,430 --> 02:36:51,420
have to end it now because they're about

3462
02:36:56,720 --> 02:36:55,440
to take us over Marie Jones would you

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02:37:05,540 --> 02:36:56,730
tell our listeners where they can find

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more of the stuff you do explorers are a

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pair of explorers yes Twitter Marie D

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Jones author and the books are available

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where anywhere books are sold and by the

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